Comment on tupd 0.6 - small bugfix
EarMaster@lemmy.world 5 months agoI think you have realized that every comment here was about your decision not to use Git. I don’t think there is much more to say about this…
Comment on tupd 0.6 - small bugfix
EarMaster@lemmy.world 5 months agoI think you have realized that every comment here was about your decision not to use Git. I don’t think there is much more to say about this…
S_S@lemy.lol 5 months ago
Yes unfortunately most of the comments on my last post was also about me not using git and git platforms, seems very controversial.
I totally understand it, I’ve also wanted to have everything git and social development platform before when it was new
ramielrowe@lemmy.world 5 months ago
This isn’t about social platforms or using the newest-hottest tech. It’s about following industry standard practices. You act like source control is such a pain in the ass and that it’s some huge burden. And that I just don’t understand. Getting started with git is so simple, and setting up an account with a repo host is a one time thing. I find it hard to believe that you don’t already have ssh keys set up too. What I find more controversial and concerning is your ho-hum opinion on automated testing, and your belief that “most software doesn’t do it”. You’re writing software that you expect people to not only run on their infra, but also expose to the public internet. Not only that, but it also needs to protect the traffic between the server on public infra and client on private infra. There is a much higher expectation of good practices being in place. And it is clear that you are willingly disregarding basic industry standard practices.
S_S@lemy.lol 5 months ago
It is obviously about that since no good arguments are really made for anything else. There is just a constant nonsense talk why to use git and git platforms. Developers seems to have got stuck in some mindset that everything needs to version controlled all the time, if you make a change or at least a couple you gotta have to make a git commit, or otherwise most of the benefits are lost anyway, but of course I don’t really know how much of developers you really are. I don’t care what the industry standard is for public development, I’m not making public development, I’m only making a public release here. Are you really saying that using a VCS isn’t a pain in the ass? I do it because I most and when someone pays me to do it. Everyone is acting like it is just a natural piece in the workflow of any software project, I strongly disagree. It is in the way and causing extra job in every step on the way (or is everyone using a auto-commiter or a full blown CI/CD system for everything?). But that is the point when you develop something in group or for money, it has strong benefits then. Here I have time to develop it linearly and in my own pace and do all the testing I need. I don’t need git as a CTRL+Z tool or as a unfinished feature branch tool. My text editor alone got me covered, I’ve trusted it with my life for over 10 years. I couldn’t be happier and more productive with it than I already am. It might be simple to use git, but it is still extra, and in this case unnecessary extra. It literally doesn’t give me anything. Why would I also setup a git provider account, even if it is one time, ssh keys are made in a split second but you got to manage them as well, add them to the provider website and take them with you where you want to develop. I got all that setup on private instances, I fully manage myself, I know exactly how everything of that works.
It is a fact that most software skip unit tests and functional tests, I don’t believe it is good and neither do I brag about that I don’t have that yet. This project doesn’t need to be exposed to the public internet at all. You can run them perfectly fine in a own VLAN or something. I’m not saying anyone should run anything they aren’t fully trusting. I would much rather be discussing design decisions or security concerns than why I’m not using git or have any unit tests yet. I know exactly how sensitive it is for software to run in someones infrastructure, and tools that could alter and manage that, and protect the traffic between the node and the endpoint. But then give something real critical of that and refer to the code or design and not just good practices. I know they are good and useful, but it is not everything. What matters is the code in the end. Don’t run if you can’t trust it because its lacking automated testing then. I don’t care if I’m the only one ever using it, I created it for myself and it is solving a whole lof of issues no other tool or solution comes close to. I’m sharing it if anyone else is looking for something like this and maybe wants to just take a look on how I solved it when developing their own tools. I’m more than happy to help with setting it up or answering any questions related to it or the things it does