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Comment on The Official Teaser Trailer for Star Trek: Section 31 Is Here

astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

It should be a conspiracy of like-minded individuals that exists parasitically within Starfleet, not an official (or an “unofficial official” agency).

I agree. When 31 was first introduced, and Sloan explained that Section 31 was sanctioned by Starfleet under Article 14, Section 31 of the Starfleet Charter, the implication was that they were people who misinterpreted or construed a (probably minor) part of the Starfleet Charter and used it to justify damn near anything.

Personally, I hate how Section 31 has been changed to be misunderstood, cool good guy/anti-hero types who are doing the wrong things for the right reason. DS9 had it right with portraying them as the villains within who should be snuffed out because the ends don’t justify the means.

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ValueSubtracted@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The only current show that hasn’t portrayed them as villains is arguably Lower Decks…

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- astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yes-ish. The characters were villains, but the organization wasn’t necessarily. For instance, in Discovery season 2, Leland and his crew were the villains, but Section 31 was portrayed less as an extremist cabal and more as a misguided morally-grey organization. Less a blight upon the Federation and more an uncomfortable, but integral, part of it.
  
  @setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world captures it well. Instead of being a cabal of extremists doing illegal and immoral things because they think they’re connected to a higher purpose, they’re a semi-official CIA-like organization.
  
  I guess what I’m trying to say is that Section 31 isn’t supposed to be a cool or semi-legitimate organization (with ships, insignia, etc.) but rather shadowy and absolutely beyond the pale of legitimacy where very few can stomach what they do. From an artistic/thematic POV, Section 31 should be there to show us that a good society requires work to maintain and that its undoing can come from within by those claiming to protect it by eschewing that society’s values. In other words, the ends don’t justify the means.
  
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  - ValueSubtracted@startrek.website ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Section 31 was portrayed less as an extremist cabal and more as a misguided morally-grey organization
    
    My interpretation was more that they were “hiding in plain sight” at that point in time - Pike was under the impression that they were some kind of special forces, and learned the truth over the course of the season.
    
    I only watched this trailer once, but I didn’t see any insignia, so I think S31’s exact status is still TBD.
    
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geolaw@lemmygrad.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Yes it basically “they might be assholes, but at least they are OUR assholes”, which is normalisation of being an asshole

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