Comment on Leaked Cellebrite Tool Docs Reveal List of Phones That Can Be Unlocked
underisk@lemmy.ml 3 months agoI’m not claiming iPhones are superior. I don’t care about dumb OS wars, just don’t put things on your phone expecting that they can’t be retrieved. That’s the only point I’m trying to make here.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 months ago
This was the hardware vs software comment I was debating, not the rest.
Also, software signing keys (like those requested by the FBI) would work for enabling brute force since that’s a change to the software, but not for direct access into SE. That would be like saying a firmware update could grant access to a LUKS partition without the passphrase. Not possible. If it was, no open source encryption would ever work.
underisk@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
The only thing that has successfully managed to thwart the FBI in their attempts to break into a phone was Apple’s hardware based encryption. To such an extent that they took legal and legislative actions to try and circumvent it. The specifics of how the encryption works is irrelevant to this argument, and you are more than welcome to consider that point conceded.
Lojcs@lemm.ee 3 months ago
If it’s not the “Apple’s” and also not the “hardware based encryption”, what’s the argument then? As you pointed it out FBI only needed apple’s help since they didn’t have a working exploit and dropped it once a new one was found. In the latest case with android once again their existing tools didn’t work but cellibrite had an unreleased one ready to use, so they didn’t need to go to court in the meantime.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 months ago
Exactly, thank you. They seem to think hardware encryption is a form of magic here, and are missing the key point. Sure, we are needlessly debating on the interwebs, but this type of thing is what leads to those that don’t understand the specifics gravitating towards the wrong solutions for their needs.