Comment on Grindr faces massive fine for allegedly sharing “sensitive” user data

• groet@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Fines as a percentage of income is a good idea for individuals but I dont think it works for coorperations.

  A more reasonable approach is:

  • 100% of the money they earned/saved by comiting the crime
  • 100% of all damages caused to other people/cost to clean up results of the crime (includes the cost of investigation and prosecution)
  • a fine that represents the likelihood of getting caught. (If the crime earns me 1mil, the fine is 50mil but I only have a 1% chance to get caught, statistically I should commit the crime as many times as possible because I will end up wining in the end)
  • (optionally) a fine based on the crime. This one might be based on the size of the company. This is the “punishment” part. It probably should be payed by the individuals responsible and not the company.

  This third point is the important one. Cooperations comit crimes because they are reasonable monetary investments. If the expected fines are always higher than the expected earnings, crimes become a bad investment.

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  • UltraGiGaGigantic@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Revoke their corporate charter permanently. The survivors will take notice and bend the knee.

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• Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I mean 6 million is probably more than they made in the Norwegian market

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  • Grippler@feddit.dk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    In a globally spanning company, it doesn’t make sense to separate it in to different markets like that IMO.

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    • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But what might be illegal in Norway isn’t necessarily illegal or finable in other countries

      I’m not sure how they Norwegian courts landed on this number though.

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      • Grippler@feddit.dk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        No it may not be, but it’s one company and I believe they should be fines based on their global revenue, just like the EU fines alphabet, meta and apple. If a fine doesn’t hurt in their global financial picture, they don’t give a shit.

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