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Amoxtli@thelemmy.club 2 months agoRich people use drugs as well, but they do not decrease the economic quality of the area and generate a lot of crimes and nuisance. For tourism, it is necessary to clean up the encampments, and sleeping homeless to market the attractions. Since they are poor and addicted to drugs, probably feel screwed by society, they are more likely to steal. They have not taken a shower in ages, do you enjoy being next to stinky people?
hapablap@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
You’re making a lot of spurious assumptions and generalizations. The overwhelming majority of the time the homeless are just minding their own business. Some are certainly more annoying than others, some smell worse than others but that doesn’t justify criminalizing all of them nor does it justify abdicating moral responsibility as a society to care for those that often for no fault of their own fail to integrate into the structures that have evolved. There are other solutions, none of them are going to be perfect. Maybe criminalizing sleeping on the street is fine as long as the city provides places to sleep that are reasonable.
Amoxtli@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
Being homeless is not a criminal offense, and how do you know it is not their own fault? Talk about spurious assumptions and generalizations. Get out of town.
hapablap@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Now the root of your objections are shown to be just callous indifference to human suffering. That’s fine, just come out and say you don’t care and can’t be bothered. You want to live in a world of machiavellian justice. Be careful what you ask for as maybe that knife will fall on your head or someone you care about if you are capable of that.
It’s hard to take you seriously when you try to conflate Marxism and religion, the guy that viewed religion as “the soul of soulless conditions” or the “opium of the people”. Or when you intimated that society was structurally fair. In what way is it fair that one person can be born to wealth and privlegde and another to poverty and lack of options? But even beyond the rules of society, there is no fundamental fairness in the universe. Some people get lucky others don’t. Some people are healthy others aren’t. It’s impossible to have any reasonable discussion when the starting point is so fundamentally divorced from reality.
Amoxtli@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
To the contrary, I want the problems of society fixed. I want the quality of life of people to be improved, not out of compassion, but out of duty, and the concept of improvement. Liberals always virtue signaling they care about the poor, and so on, yet look at the environment they created. Singapore has one of the most expensive properties in the world and high inequality, yet they have no homeless people.
Karl Marx was born into a Christian culture, and he was culturally Christian. Does Karl Marx disagree with the Bible in regard to poor versus rich? Christianity is subversive; the poor will prevail over the rich, the downtrodden people will prevail over their oppressors. Socialism and communism are as scientific as witchcraft and astrology. Life isn’t fair; welcome to the real world. It is through work, applied with knowledge, that you make your state better than before.