Comment on A golf course eight miles away from the hottest point on the entire planet.

• Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This supports native wildlife that wouldn’t otherwise be there.

  Then it wasn’t native was it?

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  • rockstarmode@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You must be trolling.

    Birds, insects, and reptiles are common even in the desert. A species can be native to an ecosystem or region, without naturally occuring in an small locality.

    If humans manage water more efficiently than nature would have in this locality, it stands to reason that the resulting local ecosystem would be able to attract and support more native wildlife.

    This is observable and provable for golf courses which manage their resources with a focus on limiting their natural resource use and increasing local biodiversity.

    You just hate golf courses, which is fine, but you sound pretty uninformed.

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    • Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes, that’s the point. But if you divert the water then you’ve killed them. Bringing in different ones isn’t a value add, it’s just green washing marketing. You cannot introduce a human structure to manage water more efficiently than nature. The local ecosystem has spent thousands of years developing around that water source.

      It’s thinking like yours that got us into the position of having to remove dams and concrete river channels.

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      • rockstarmode@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You cannot introduce a human structure to manage water more efficiently than nature

        If you actually believe this then there’s nothing anyone can say to help you.

        If a naturally occuring spring runs directly into a wide flat area in the middle of the Mojave desert, then it doesn’t naturally reabsorb into the ground as the hard pack just makes it sit on the surface. Since the water is shallow and sitting on the surface, it evaporates instead of being used to water native plants or support native animals.

        The golf course in question is not a dam, it’s putting the already available water to use more efficiently. Growing non-native grass, but also native plant species, and providing native insects and animals a way to utilize that water before it would have otherwise evaporated.

        Dams destroy native ecosystems by flooding and displacing them, or removing available water downstream. The golf course in question does none of those things.

        “Nature is perfect and humans are capable of nothing but destroying it” is a great take BTW. You could have saved a few people some time by leading with that.

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