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During Hitlers Ascent to Power, the communist still considered the SPD to be the bigger threat and refused to march with them. And the SPD of the 1930 were by no means “liberals”. They were further to the left than any democrat has ever been.

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volodya_ilich@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

the communist still considered the SPD to be the bigger threat and refused to march with them

…which was confirmed when they agreed with the Nazis… And when they collaborated with the Freikorps to crush, torture, and murder the communists.

And the SPD of the 1930 were by no means “liberals”. They were further to the left than any democrat has ever been.

Go ask Rosa Luxembourg, leader of communists in Germany and murdered at 47 at the order of SPD, how progressive and left the SPD was. “Left is when you agree to murder and torture communists”. Fucking revisionists man

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- Belastend@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  They agreed with Hitler? They were the only faction voting against him during the Gleichschaltungkrise.
  
  “Left is when you agree tp torture and murder communists”. So we both agree that the Stalinist Sovietunion and the KPD, which allied themselves with them arent left?
  
  No, both SPD and KPD were way to the left of all pther political parties and had they banded together, like they did during the Kappputsch, my homecountry wouldnt have been destroyed and 60 Million People would probably still be alive. After every other institution failed Germany, these two failed them in conjunction by not even trying to organize a joined force.
  
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  - volodya_ilich@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    So we both agree that the Stalinist Sovietunion and the KPD, which allied themselves with them arent left?
    
    One country ended up with Nazis. The other ended up defeating the Nazis. I’d say the Bolsheviks did a better job, didn’t they? The fact that there was oppression against Mensheviks and SRs in the context of a civil war, doesn’t mean they’re anticommunists, they didn’t quite literally enable the Nazis in order to murder the ones who were more communist than them, but defeat them instead.
    
    Want to find the blame for Nazism in Germany? The fault is primarily of Nazis, and then of Nazi enablers, and then of anti-communist leftists.
    
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    HelixDab2@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    
    The other ended up defeating the Nazis. I’d say the Bolsheviks did a better job, didn’t they?
    
    Uh. The Bolsheviks actively collaborated with Hitler and the Nazis, right up until Operation Barbarossa. The Soviets carved up Poland between themselves and Germany, and tried to invade Finland (Winter War, Continuation War), which is why the Finns ended up allying with the Nazis after Operation Barbarossa.
    
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