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Comment on Announcing the Ladybird Browser Initiative

unlawfulbooger@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

They’re making a new browser engine from scratch in an open way, absolutely amazing!

I do have several questions:

Why would they use BSD instead of GPL? If you care about open-source so much, why would you make it possible for a company to run away with your fancy new engine?

Why are they creating a new browser, when even firefox has to struggle to keep some semblance of market share? I get that not every project needs to aim to be “the biggest”, and that even a smaller project (in terms of users), can be fun. It’s just that writing a browser engine that can handle the modern web seems like an almost Sisyphean task; which makes me wonder what their motivation(?) is.

Why the FLOSS are they using closed-source proprietary discord as their main communication channel?

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Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
(BSD vs GPL) Andreas stated on twitter that he wanted to give devs total freedom to use his work because when he worked at Apple, he felt frustrated he incorporate some code/software into his work because of GPL.

(Why?) The aim is not to create a chrome competitor, but to make a good enough, truly free browser that isn’t either chrome or funded by chrome. A browser made for it’s user’s.

(Discord) Because of gen-z.
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ggppjj@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
As someone who uses BSD licensed modified code at work and relies on it quite a lot, it’s crucial to me choosing which projects I’m able to use in the first place.

Personally, I prefer a license that allows for commercial use in the way that companies need them to, and if my own work ever can provide a patch back upstream I’d be happy to do so, but most of what I do is just tweaking things that exist to suit my purposes which doesn’t really help anyone but my business rivals which I personally am not interested in doing if I don’t have to.

I prefer to have the freedom to do as I wish with the code, as compared to being bound to do as the author wishes and essentially just not using that code in the first place because I can’t. I’m not in a position to change what I can and can’t do because of the requirements of the business I work for, and I’m grateful to those that choose licenses that allow me to use their work.

They’re creating a new browser because they want to. It started as an OS building project that the lead dev did to help stay sober.

They use discord because it’s popular. Insert Ouroborus argument here, and at the end of the day it’s still the most popular app.

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- tron@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  They use discord because it’s popular. Insert Ouroborus argument here, and at the end of the day it’s still the most popular app.
  
  Using this logic why shouldn’t I just download chrome and forget this project exists?
  
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  - ggppjj@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Depending on your use case, maybe you should. If your use case is “using the internet today securely”, then you definitely should.
    
    I’m not trying to create a logical puzzle that teasing the right details out of will solve, I’m not even advocating for or against their decision, discord fuckin sucks shit and I can’t wait for element to continue to mature towards enough feature parity that a switch is seamless so that I can actually comvince my friends to switch too, I’m reporting a reality of life on the internet today.
    
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