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maegul@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

Right. Well, I think the instance name “vegantheory.org” was doing that already, and I’m betting you drew your conclusion from the public description of the place too (and aren’t in the modlog or anything for challenging their ideas).

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CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
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- Future@mander.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  Veganism tends to be a religion for a lot of vegans and they drive away potential allies because the concept of harm reduction is anathema to their binary thinking. If you’re not ALL in, you’re the enemy.
  
  That is a strawman and a lie as vegans are always celebrating the small wins for the increased protections on animal rights.
  
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  - CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I’ve experienced it first hand. I am not a liar.
    
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    maegul@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    I believe you … gate-keeping types are all over the place really.
    
    But vegans or the “vegan-curious” aren’t one thing or one kind of person, at least not any more. I personally have only ever had positive conversations with vegan types.
    
    This instance, in being insistent on not entertaining any “harm reduction” or “compromises”, makes sense though … because it’s a space for people to talk about that sort of dedicated approach.
    
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- maegul@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  they drive away potential allies because the concept of harm reduction is anathema to their binary thinking. If you’re not ALL in, you’re the enemy.
  
  I can resonate with that. But I come back to … “it’s totally ok for people to create their own spaces, especially on federated social media and especially for minority groups/ideas”.
  
  There are likely plenty of other spaces for “potential allies” to engage and talk about veganism if they want to, or plenty they, or you, could make on their own.
  
  Tacitly admitting that vegans are usually antisocial zealots. “It’s right in the name!”
  
  Well, they’re running their own social media platform, so I’m not sure how anti-social they are.
  
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  - CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
    Agreed for the most part. But you can absolutely be antisocial to your ‘other’ or ‘out group’.
    
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