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Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 months agoNot hamas, Gazans that have no hamas affiliation. Could they enter Egypt? Could they enter Israel? Are there any other neighboring countries? Could they get on a boat, or a plane?
While yes, some always stay behind, a great many flee. Most do not stick around. Mariupol was encircled quickly, look at the towns in Eastern Ukraine where they had a lot of warning before the enemy arrived. Jews usually fled, that’s why Israel was founded in the first place, right? A place to flee to.
At any rate, in Gaza, almost nobody has fled. Some should flee, right? But they actually cannot. Physically cannot, prevented by other people.
YourPrivatHater@ani.social 4 months ago
Maybe you should do a little research about why they don’t go away and why nobody from outside takes them. And yes Hamas. Hamas is the root of problems. Btw, many gaza refugees live in Europe… And they despise most people still in gaza saying “these are the people responsible for all of the deaths, its not Israel shooting civilians left and right, its not Israelis going into “Palestine” with the IDF and spitting on dead people or killing them” this is a direct quote from one of the people i work with, he is a refuge from gaza, and he said that going out is not hard (was, currently it definitely is) and that they are allowed to leave into Israel when they want to move away.
Most don’t want to go, it would be admitting defeat after almost 70 years of trying to get rid of Israel.
Shure Israel is blocking the entrys and exits now and was strictly regulating before. Iran already sends hamas weapons through tunnels, don’t need the terrorists to leave and regroup outside of gaza for a attack on Israel. Don’t need more Iranian weapons in Gaza, especially not even more Rockets.
You people argue that Israel should let a region with majority support for a terrorist organization, especially their genocide attacks, do whatever they want.
apnews.com/…/israel-hamas-palestinians-opinion-po…
timesofisrael.com/…/poll-over-70-palestinians-sti… *
middleeasteye.net/…/war-gaza-poll-shows-palestini… *
(* same poll different sources)
The insanity is beyond reason.
Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 months ago
I’m sorry for upsetting you, but don’t put words in my mouth. I’m not arguing to let Gazans “do whatever they want”, I have not said that or anything similar. If you remember, I said earlier that terrorists need to be dealt with, right?
It’s those innocents, those that are not part of hamas, that’s the sticking point. For whatever good or bad reasons they cannot leave, the fact is that today, they 100% cannot leave. So, they should not be callously butchered and/or starved simply because of what their fathers and neighbors have done.
YourPrivatHater@ani.social 4 months ago
Yes but they aren’t being starved on purpose, Israel isn’t targeting the civilians, that would be super counterproductive for them as more people would join the terrorists. Also Israel, contrary to popular belief does not have enough material to waste it on civilians. They fight a four front war against the Palestinian terrorists, the ones from Lebanon(hezbolla), the ones from the Egyptian border (hezbolla) and whatever Iran is currently plotting.
There is food getting into Gaza, its not enough for everyone, hut they try. They have to keep themselves save first however, you can’t help anyone when you are dead. Nato is even airlifting supplys into Gaza where its not possible to get trucks with food.
The narrative being pushed by hamas is “Israel kills all our people with bombs and starves the children” this is textbook recruitment propaganda. They celebrate every single dead jew btw.
Carrolade@lemmy.world 4 months ago
Yes, hamas is not good people, I do not trust them. I don’t trust politicians either though, especially the more extreme ones.
That’s why I say what sort of people the Israelis are remains to be seen. We don’t know yet. We won’t know until this is all over and we see what has become of those Gazans that are innocent. Will they be alive or dead? That will be telling.