Comment on Annoucement: Upcoming vote on defederation
Blizzard@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Am I the only one using Subscribed view by default? I subscribe to communities that interest me and it shows me their posts.
I see someone spamming, being a dick etc., I block them.
Everyone can just keep whatever they like and hide whatever they don’t like. You can block whole communities too.
I took a quick view at linked examples and haven’t seen anything illegal. Let’s not turn into r€ddit/twatter, where mob cancels someone for being controversial. I’m subscribed to !Piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com, hope we won’t defederate from them 😀
I think federation is one of the greatest assets of the fediverse and if defederation becomes something common, then we might lose that. Good thing this is being put for a vote!
Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Unfortunately the moderation tools just aren’t there yet - ideally I’d love for users to set their own instance blocks and for us admin’s to leave that up to users (unless in the case of illegal/CSAM content) and if those tools ever do become available, then we’d probably refederate as an instance and allow users to decide.
As that isn’t the case currently we need to take broader steps towards moderation. If CSAM/illegal material makes its way on to this server, we’re just as much on the hook for it which jeopardises the instance.
In terms of what counts as illegal, I personally live in the UK which has stricter laws around this than some other countries, i.e. the USA, which are summarised here. Specifically, it is an offence to host: web pages with pictures, videos or descriptions that glorify violence against anyone due to their race, religion, disability, sexual orientation or because they are transgender.
EH has posted “memes” which could be argued violate this law. I also need to be mindful of the content held in other countries as part of hosting the site, i.e. in Germany, and their local laws.
While I’m very unlikely to have my front door kicked in over a meme, it does in the long term risk the instance if content like this continues to be produced by EH.
Unlike many other instances, we haven’t defederated with anyone else (except threads) at all, instead allowing users to choose, but it does come to a point when I find myself asking the question about the risk vs the content, and then I feel it needs to go to the community to be involved in that decision.
Personally I don’t feel they produce anything of importance that we’ll miss by not being federated, but maybe I’m in a bubble, hence why we’re asking the community!
RadDevon@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
If we defederate now, is it possible/does it make sense to re-federate with those instances when the moderation tools have matured?
Demigodrick@lemmy.zip 1 year ago
Yes, we should just be able to remove the block and federation would start again.