Comment on We should have something like federated communities

zelifcam@electricpaper.love ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

• serialized_kirin@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  ehhhh, don't throw the baby out with the bathwater! personally i think it makes vastly more sense to federate on a per community basis rather than a per instance basis. an instance is most likely going to hold a vast array of users and topics in an ideal world, in which case the general consensus on what is and what is not considered to be relevant or desirable content for the given group is likely quite difficult-- there's nothing to go on, as everyone's talking about different things and holds markedly different values because of it. But communities? Perfect sense! Every community is about a very specific subject/topic, and comes with a set of rules/values for everyone who wishes to post/interact with it. Once you get to the granularity of federated communities, it no longer feels quite so high handed to federate or de-federate with something, because the general consensus of the community is assumedly much more clear.

  Sure, leaving automatic federating up to the client makes sense, but the meat of it sounds like a much better level of granularity for decision-making for something that impacting than it being server-wide...
  But perhaps I am simply way off mark. my experience is small, in comparison to my conviction lol.

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• czech@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You are literally describing reddit. Allowing mods to federate communities together would be novel.

  The beauty of the fediverse is that when one volunteer-run server goes down (as happens all the time) there is little disruption if your feed is filling with other instance's content. You can't count on these volunteer-run servers to have 99.9% uptime like reddit, they can disappear over night.

  Same idea for communities. If lemmy.world disappears tomorrow there are dozens of communities that disappear with it; fragmented across the fediverse. If mods of those communities were federated with complementary communities on other instances then there is no disruption.

  I don't think that communities should automatically federate, it should be agreed to by the mods. But with the current population we can't afford to keep identical communities isolated. Many will die a slow death when together it could have been thriving.

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  • zelifcam@electricpaper.love ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • czech@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      All I'm saying is that if /c/butterflies exists on multiple instances they should be able to "aggregate" themselves as if they were one instance. We don't have enough users to isolate small communities; they have no shot here.

      If large federated communities want to exclude others... those others can just form their own federated group. We're still in a much better position than if we had one large community on a single instance or a speckling of tiny ones across the fediverse that aren't large enough to drive engagement.

      In the current model small communities are forced to choose a server. When that server goes down we lose an entire community. Two examples off the top of my head are Firefox and Android. We can't count on legends to save us every time. And why go through that chaos when we have the underlying systems to avoid it?

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      • zelifcam@electricpaper.love ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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