Comment on Microsoft says “Prism” translation layer does for Arm PCs what Rosetta did for Macs

woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

• SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  this is for the transition. no point in porting your software if nobody has the hardware. This will get people to get the hardware, as they can just keep using the existing software, and wait until it’s properly ported

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  • vanderbilt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Nobody will buy the hardware if they can’t commit to supporting the software. In a previous role, I was responsible for advising purchasing decisions for my company’s laptop fleet. The Surface X (Arm edition) looked cool we weren’t willing to take the risk, because at the time Microsoft had far worse transitional support than they do now. It’s gotten better, but no one in their right mind is going to make the kind of volume purchases that actually drive adoption until they demonstrate they are in it for the long haul. It’s a chicken and egg problem, and Microsoft doesn’t care what hardware you are using, so long as it is running Windows or using (expensive) Windows services.

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  • ch00f@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Apple released a native x86 version of Tiger with their first Intel Macs.

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  • Miaou@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Microsoft really never do that port if they have a translation layer

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• JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

  Isn’t that the point? This new layer is supposed to make it easier to port everything, and they’re saying that’s what Rosetta did for Apple/Mac.

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  • Revan343@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Translation layers aren’t porting

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    • JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      Fair enough, but to the end user it doesn’t matter if it works.

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      • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        to the end user it doesn’t matter if it works.

        Emulation is always slower and eats more battery. Microsoft’s laziness is proof they don’t care about that hardware, so may just as well buy an iPad Pro instead.

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

    Isn’t that the point?

    No, the point of Rosetta was to be a stop-gap for 3rd party software because Apple did all porting in-house software long ago.

    Prism is Microsoft’s tool for staying lazy. Microsoft ships ARM-based Surface tablets since 12 years!!!

    In all architecture transitions (PPC->Intel then Intel->ARM), Apple Chess has always been a native port from day one.

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    • vanderbilt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      I firmly maintain that if Microsoft gave a shit about ARM, they would be defaulting every one of their compilers to produce fat x86/aarch64 binaries. The reality is, however, that they don’t care about the hardware so long as it is good enough.

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      • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

        if Microsoft gave a shit about ARM, they would be defaulting every one of their compilers to produce fat x86/aarch64 binaries

        Wasn’t the point of .NET once that native binary code isn’t needed? I’d say if Microsoft gave a shit about ARM, everything would have been ported to .NET.

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    • fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨month⁩ ago

      The 68k to PPC transition was rough though. It wasn’t until system 8 that Mac OS on a PPC mac was fully PPC code. But that was also a much different Apple that’s nothing like the Apple of today.

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