Comment on Selfhosting as a Linux newbie - Ubuntu Server LTS or Debian 13?

• lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You say that but sometimes they come up with stuff that’s really useful and it can be very annoying to not have it. Like when they integrated compose into the main.

  Also, if you later decide to switch to the official version you’ll have to handle the upgrade carefully or you risk wiping out all your images, containers, networks, volumes etc. Which can be fine if you have backups of all the relevant functional definitions and the volumes and so on, but obviously a huge pain if it catches you unprepared.

  Mind you, this can also happen by tinkering with stuff in /etc/docker/daemon.json, which is how I originally learned to back up my shit.

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  • steel_for_humans@piefed.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ok, I will keep that in mind. I’m just wary of what you said earlier:

    You can fuck up both Ubuntu and Debian’s upgrades by adding a lot of 3rd-party repos because apt doesn’t safeguard against external repos interfering with the core repos’ dependency graph.

    You’re not the first person to tell me not to add too many external repositories on Debian for the same reason.

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    • lemmyvore@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      In Docker’s case is a non-issue because they were careful to use completely different names for all their packages. It’s only when the external repo uses the same names as the core that the dependency resolver can get confused.

      Rant:

      apt should either completely forbid external repos from using core package names (like Arch does), or look at both the package name and repo URL when deciding if a package is the same, not just package name.

      I’m guessing that letting external repos “hijack” a package name was once upon a time seen as a feature and then they never got around to fixing it.

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