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Comment on Instagram and Facebook under EU investigation for causing child addiction and harm
0x0@programming.dev 1 month ago
Never the parents’ fault, eh?
tabular@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Grangle1@lemm.ee 1 month ago
The eternal excuse of those who profit or benefit from children getting involved in things they shouldn’t.
dinckelman@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You’re really going to tell us that you’ve never done something you parents told you not to?
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Hard downvote.
This is an institutional problem, not an individual one.
FB markets its platform as safe and respectful of security, but it’s exactly the opposite on both fronts and that is a proven fact. It’s deliberately addictive, has led to widespread radicalization and mental illness in its users, and steals people’s personal information.
It’s the digital equivalent of marketing cigarettes to kids, only more harmful.
FB absolutely needs to be investigated and held accountable.
0x0@programming.dev 1 month ago
Never said otherwise.
ripcord@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Uh huh
0x0@programming.dev 1 month ago
Binary-thinking morons would be amusing if they weren’t sad and a majority. Let’s pray they don’t vote.
jas0n@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Facebook is almost more effective on adults. So whether or not you’re right here is so ridiculously beyond the point anymore. They’ve lost all credibility and should be indefensible.
0x0@programming.dev 1 month ago
They did and should indeed.
TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Lol, good luck trying to control everything around your child and what it consumes as a parent. Pretty much impossible, especially nowadays.
0x0@programming.dev 1 month ago
So just say Fuck it, everyone else can do it instead… and then moan about your children being addicted?
I’m not excusing Meta here, but parents should definitely not be excused of the responsibility or raising their kids.
TheDarksteel94@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
Oh no, definitely do something as a parent, like lock some apps or something. But with stuff like social media it’s almost impossible to keep your kids away from it, especially without government intervention. Pretty sure some kids nowadays also just get bullied into using social media, even if they’re not interested in it. I mean, kids get bullied over not having any Fortnite skins…
Mkengine@feddit.de 1 month ago
I have often thought about how I will do this with my child. Fortunately, I still have some time before this becomes relevant, but in the end it’s like politics, isn’t it? It’s always about the tug of war between safety and freedom. As a father, I naturally pull in the direction of safety, but how hard can I pull? I don’t know if I’m too naive, but maybe I can achieve a better result with education than with bans? If I ban something, my children should understand why there is a ban or restriction. I would also be prepared to engage in a discussion because I naturally think differently to my child. I hope that I will do everything right, I hated it as a child when there were bans without justification.
obinice@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That’s pretty much the definition of the job of parent. To control everything around the child and how they interact with things.
It’s not any more difficult than it ever was. For one thing, don’t give kids a smartphone until they’re at least 13, they have no need for one before then.
Similarly, up to that age, they should be taught how to use a computer and the internet, but only in a closely monitored, safe manner.
After 13 or there abouts, they are given more freedom and more responsibility to go along with it, and hopefully have been raised well enough to respect that.
From there, limitations and guide rails will remain in place, be it a traditional curfew in the evening, or a limitation of “screen time”, and if course of what the children interact with online.
Greater autonomy is earned through positive actions and mutual respect, too. Over time as they approach adulthood you will be able to loosen restrictions and worry less, as the strong person you’ve helped raise will be able to make their own decisions with greater confidence and more positive outcomes.
Mistakes will be made on all sides along the way, there will be joy, sorrow, anger, love, parenting is a learning experience for all parties, but in the end, if all goes well, you’ll have a well adjusted young adult who isn’t addicted to their mobile phone or any of the apps contained within, who understands the dangers of such things, and how easily addictions and a warping of reality within the mind can set in.
Eventually you have to let go, let them be adults and make their own decisions, but by then they’ll have this deep understanding of the dangers they face, and that’s the best defence they can have.
It still might not be enough, but all you can do as a parent is try to prepare them, from then on they have to make their own mistakes, you know?
Anyway yeah, that’s how I think about it :-)
barsoap@lemm.ee 1 month ago
The fuck. You’ll breed a country of people with zero social skills, zero independence, and a lot of ressentiment for their parents for boxing them in and helicoptering leading to an authority neurosis.
In short, you’ll have American conditions.
No, give them 30 pence so they can find a telephone booth and call you if something is up. Make sure to isolate them from their peers because they can’t use the same chat app as everyone else. The more isolation the more you control them which will make nurturing that neurosis even easier.
If, at the age of 13/14 thereabouts they haven’t learned to evaluate things for themselves, have had the opportunity to make wrong choices that they then learned from, they’ll be rolled over by puberty hormones driving their frontal cortex to mindless exploration. You cannot substitute your own judgement for theirs, your judgement isn’t stopping them, their capacity and ability to say “wait a minute I should think before I act” is the only thing that can.
At the age of 16 they should be mature enough to live on their own, with parental backup being present, but not imposing on them. They’ll call you when they need help.
I’m sure you’ll be able to after helicoptering them for 18 fucking years and them going zero contact for their own sanity.
Then fucking do that!
admin@lemmy.my-box.dev 1 month ago
So ehm, how old are your kids and how do they like it so far?