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Supporting politicians you like and supporting basic human rights being taken away on the basis of completely arbitrary factors outside one’s control are two very different things.

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mo_ztt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
You’re not going to want to hear this, but this logic (i.e. “But MY side is the RIGHT one, so it’s different”) is exactly why the right wing thinks Trump shouldn’t go to prison and it’s okay when they cheat in elections.

I do agree with you that the left wing is the right side of history. That doesn’t mean someone who’s on the other side suddenly shouldn’t be an executive of anything.

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- be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  Your first point is predicated on a false equivalence. The very real problems Democrats have are not in the same league as the very real problems Republicans have. That Republicans and their supporters have chosen to manufacture outrage based on lies and hysteria does not put them on the same plane as being outraged at the loss of reproductive rights for women and the deaths already caused from that, the attacks on voting rights, the trans and drag show boogeyman that is going to lead to deaths if it hasn't already, and etc and etc and etc.
  
  Your second point is arguing against what exactly? People are talking about things they don't like about the CEO of a company. Some of those people are going to choose not to support that company as is their right. WTF business is it of yours aside from your freedom to make a different decision? That CEO doesn't need your help, and doesn't give a shit about you. Why would you be here finger wagging at people about it? If the claims were false that would be one thing, but even you don't seem to be claiming they are.
  
  Let the truth out and let people make up their own minds. If centrism is your thing (and it seems it is) I can't imagine a more neutral position than that.
  
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  - mo_ztt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    When did I say anything about the Democrats? I agree with you that the Democrats are a conservative party, and the Republicans are a fascist party. I don’t think we were saying anything at all about the Democrats or the Republicans, and I don’t think it’s controversial that favoring gay marriage is a left-wing position and opposing it is a right-wing position.
    
    Your second point is arguing against what exactly? People are talking about things they don’t like about the CEO of a company. Some of those people are going to choose not to support that company as is their right. WTF business is it of yours aside from your freedom to make a different decision?
    
    Let the truth out and let people make up their own minds.
    
    100% agreed. Do you feel the same way about “Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla”?
    
    If centrism is your thing (and it seems it is)
    
    Incorrect. I used to be registered with the US Green Party before they shit the bed, if that gives you any idea.
    
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    be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    Do you feel the same way about “Firefox Money: Investigating the bizarre finances of Mozilla”?
    
    Absolutely. It's why I'm not in related threads telling people who are bothered by it that they shouldn't be.
    
    I don’t think we were saying anything at all about the Democrats or the Republicans, and I don’t think it’s controversial that favoring gay marriage is a left-wing position and opposing it is a right-wing position.
    
    My issue is here:
    
    (i.e. “But MY side is the RIGHT one, so it’s different”) is exactly why the right wing thinks Trump shouldn’t go to prison and it’s okay when they cheat in elections.
    
    Even if for some reason you want to limit the scope to a generic "Left" and "Right" even after invoking Trump, you're still creating a false equivalence.
    
    As you acknowledge, we can point to the factual basis for the concerns the Left has about the actions of the Right. The right has misinformation, disinformation, and willful ignorance as the basis for their outrage. "Both sides" thinking they are right doesn't boil down to the same thing when one side actually is demonstrably wrong.
    
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- themarty27@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  It’s not even about sides. There is no left wing party in the USA - the Democrats are a right wing party. The problew with the GOP is not that they are right wing, it’s that they are extremists. A lot of their “policies” are not policies, they are crimes against humanity. People who are demographic X shouldn’t have the basic human right of Y is not an opinion, a policy or justifiable in any way.
  
  And boycotting people as Eich is first and foremost an act of self-preservation.
  
  Eich is, evidently, a hateful cunt who invests into destroying the human rights of random people. By exposing your e-mail, bank accounts, your communications and your identity to him (by using his browser), you are inviting him to violate your rights as well.
  
  By using Brave’s shit, you giwe Eich money. Thot same money he later uses to fund the atrocities he and his peers commit. Thus, by using Brave’s shit, you are not only complacent in these crimes, but actively participating.
  
  Less relevant, but still, by using a Chromium-based browser, you help inflate Google’s oppressive market share in the browser space, letting them push shit like Mv3 or WEI. If Brave actually cared about making a private and secure browser and fighting Google’s monopoly, they’d base off Gecko or, better yet, build their own engine.
  
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