It’s provocative because ordinance launched from a German or NATO base would result in a Russian engagement which in turn result in a NATO engagement.
It’s provocative because ordinance launched from a German or NATO base would result in a Russian engagement which in turn result in a NATO engagement.
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 1 month ago
If you think launching defensive measures for an ally is provocative, then how do you view & call launching offensive measures through imperialistic ambitions within a peaceful independent country?
If Russia wants to avoid a conflict with NATO, maybe they should just avoid their illegal aggression and retreat back to within their own borders.
Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 month ago
It’s not a this or that proposition. Russia is very much aware how to bring NATO into the conflict, yet they don’t. If NATO wanted to start a war with Russia, this is one way to do it. But, be careful what you wish for. Unintended consequences.
meleethecat@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Russia started the war when they invaded Ukraine. They are also the only ones who can end it, and that is by leaving Ukraine. Russia is the only aggressive party here; everyone one else is defending themselves from Russia. Any implication that anyone other than Russia has started or is starting a war here is completely false.
Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Well sure, but they started it with Ukraine not NATO.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
Thats literally what I wish for. The entire reasons The Greens are about this is because they know appeasement never works with bullies.
Bringing NATO in would end the war
It might see the end of Russia and if thats what Russia wants they can launch a nuc but I suspect Vald wants to enjoy his billions and his mansion.
Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Well yes, NATO could end the war, but it would be the end of NATO to interfere with non NATO countries. That’s why NATO has to be consulted. Geopolitical blowback could involve such things as China invading Taiwan or North Korea invading South Korea. It’s more than the Germans can decide on their own. Which is the point I made to begin with. Now if Germany wants to march their troops into Ukraine to help them, that’s fine. They can start their own war with Russia. But don’t expect NATO to invoke Article 5.
DarkThoughts@fedia.io 1 month ago
And here comes the Ruscists weekly nuclear threat. Yawn.
Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 1 month ago
NATO would respond to that. If nothing else, the 82nd Airborn would drop in on a humanitarian mission. If they pop a nuke on NATO soil, the 20 minute clock starts. They’d have to be pretty stupid.