The real question is why the fuck are people ok with Google indexing SO and not OpenAI? Doesn’t make any fucking sense.
Because Google is free and OpenAI isn’t. It’s one thing to take free content, index it, then allow anyone to access that index. It’s another thing when you take free content, index it, then hide that index behind a paywall.
Aux@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Are you sure? Because Google is not free at all, you’re paying for it through privacy invasion and ads. While ChatGPT is actually free to use for end users - no ads, nothing.
jnk@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
The price difference is that google steals your data. That’s it. OpenAI steals data, ask for money to use most of their models, and buy even more data from other companies stealing user data (like google and SO). Also indexing web pages is not even the “stealing” part of google, it’s just not comparable.
Yes, training AI on user data for free then selling the end product is a reasonable thing to be concerned about. It’d be different if the product was free or the data was sold to them with user consent.
SO has announced a subscription-based service trained on user data for free, and not only there’s not even opt-out, they’re mass-banning users for trying to “opt-out” manually. Tell me one thing here that’s not completely fucked up.
Aux@lemmy.world 5 months ago
But it’s free. Unlike Google.
irreticent@lemmy.world 5 months ago
openai.com/api/pricing/
Aux@lemmy.world 5 months ago
No, it’s free chatgpt.com
As your link is for custom enterprise solutions, it’s worth noting that Google has the same shit which also costs money cloud.google.com/pricing/
irreticent@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What does Google’s cloud service have to do with what we’re discussing (Google indexing content vs. SO doing it)? They’re not even similar services.
Zacryon@lemmy.wtf 5 months ago
It’s “freemium”, not free. There is a difference. You can’t use ChatGPT 4 without paying as well as the API. Also, you are limited in the number of prompts you can make per hour before you are put on pause and asked to pay.
Search engines like Ecosia, DuckDuckGo, etc. don’t ask you for money. Regardless how intensively you use it. (They might come with other drawbacks though like Google with privacy, environment, ethical principles, …)