Comment on Meta AI is obsessed with turbans when generating images of Indian men
SavedKriss@lemmy.world 6 months agoA traditional dress is not a religious dress, it’s a dress used for a long time for it’s usefulness or fashion.
The historical use of the turban is fascinating, spanning for millennia and in a lot of hot regions of the world.
I suggest the wiki page for further info, more precise than I have on hand.
An excerpt about the Pagri:
In Rajasthan state of India these turbans, known as Pagri or Safa, is a traditional headwear that is an integral part of the state’s cultural identity.
My point was (but it might be lost in sarcasm) that being the “hat” of Indian kings, nobles and emperors for millennia, we have a lot of drawings and also photos of Indian people with turbans, that most probably these generative models have been trained on.
On a footnote: why should the concept of a traditional dress be offensive? A lot of human groups have one.
0x0@programming.dev 6 months ago
Point taken.
Ain’t to me, couldn’t care less. I was just trying to point out that most Indians do not seem to wear turbans (and based my reasoning on the religions dress alone).
SavedKriss@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Probably they don’t because it’s not context appropriate, as we all do with our dresses. More so if you and them live in a state or city with a different dress code. These things strongly depend on context.
For generative models though, they produce usually the most stereotyped answers possible, with a pinch of randomness, so we shouldn’t be surprised about this phenomenon. They are rewarded by these things.