But it also requires a third party for push service
not necessarily, you can host ntfy or something else yourself too
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stratself@lemdro.id 1 week ago
Android notifications are notoriously difficult to get right. May I ask how is Nextcloud Talk currently implementing notifications? Is it through ntfy, a background service, or Google’s Firebase? Have you allowed background usage for both the push app and the chat app?
I use Matrix with Continuwuity and Element X, and it’s doable most of the time except for small bugs. If you disable federation, the resource usage should be minimal too. But it also requires a third party for push service which can be unreliable.
On the XMPP side, there is also Snikket which you could look into. It offers both a server (running modified Prosody) and a mobile client (modified Conversations). XMPP can run as an efficient background service on Android, so it’ll receive in-band notifications.
Regardless of options, one of the main problem I’m aware of is that Android variants tend to overkill various background app, leading to missed notifications. I think it’s better to debug on that aspect as well
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 week ago
stratself@lemdro.id 1 week ago
Hi, ntfy/another unified push backend is the third party
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 6 days ago
well, that’s true, the reason for that is battery efficiency. the chat client does not need to be awaken constantly to receive notifications, a lightweight app can do that which will wake up the chat client when needed. fewer long term network connections, lower idle memory usage, faster routines handling the bare minimum
stratself@lemdro.id 6 days ago
yeah, it’s consuming. I believe a big part of this is due to Matrix’s HTTP sync-polling being more expensive than simply maintaining a TCP stream (which is what XMPP does)
In fact, since XMPP syncs in the background so well, I use Conversations as a UnifiedPush backend for Matrix. You can find another article here as well
thirdBreakfast@lemmy.world 1 week ago
I ran Snikket for a while a couple of months ago - notifications in the iOS app were late or never arrived till you opened the app.
I believe Nextcloud Talk uses FCM for notifications. The issue doesn’t seem to be on the FCM side, it’s the client marking messages as read incorrectly, or not notifying because it thinks it’s running in the foreground, etc. They’re definitely working on these issues, but my family has lost confidence in it.
I will check out Snikket, thanks!