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Comment on One Login: Towards a Single Fediverse Identity on ActivityPub

bobbytables@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I think it is a convenience thing first and a privacy thing second.

Convenience as in: just look how successful “log in with Google/Apple/etc” is. Just imagine you go to a fediverse site, click “log in with ActivityPod” and you don’t need a new password, a new user name, no email back and forth for confirmation etc etc.

Privacy would also increase because you could control every aspect of you identity and what you want to share with a service. It could be a little as just your user name or as much as you want.

With a well made concept like this you could almost carelessly hop from service to service, test the waters here or there, and never have the hassles of creating new accounts.

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kernelle@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

convenience thing first and a privacy thing second

This is convenience and privacy, with a SolidPod you decide who stores the data. It could be you, it could be any federated instance, but that data is encrypted and you decide which application can use which data. They use a WebID (see this as a hash of your unique profile) to identify the user and this would be the only data that is shared between you and any federated instance.

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Rottcodd@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Just imagine you go to a fediverse site, click “log in with ActivityPod”

It makes me nauseous just thinking about it.

That's where the whole thing went wrong. When things started getting centralized, the internet started turning into a walled, commodified, ad-infested, bot-generated shithole controlled by a handful of loathsome megacorporations.

That's exactly the sort of shit I want to get away from, and I rhought that getting away from that sort of shit was the exact point of ActivityPub.

Privacy would also increase because you could control every aspect of you identity

I don't think that's true.

I see no possible way that a centralized identity can be more private that an array of separate ones. And rather obviously, with a centralized identity, you don't control every aspect of it, because it's an established fact - when you go to a new site and sign up with that identity, it is exactly and only what it's already been established to be, and it's immediately tied in with all the others that use the same identity.

On the other hand, when I go to a new site and create a new identity from scratch - one that only exists on that site - I actually do control every aspect of my identity. It's whatever I make it right there on the spot, and it shares exactly as much or as little detail with my other identities as I want it to.

Granted that I'm very cynical, I just can't escape the feeling that all of this is cover for the real goal, which is simply to centralize the fediverse, so that a new group of opportunists can squat on top of another piece of the internet and extract rent from ir. We're being told that this "problem" needs to be "solved" because "solving" it will, so they hope, create the next Google.

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- kernelle@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You’re going to love SolidPods, honestly. From the website:
  
  Solid is a specification that lets individuals and groups store their data securely in decentralized data stores called Pods. Pods are like secure web servers for data. When data is stored in a Pod, its owners control which people and applications can access it.
  
  I see no possible way that a centralized identity can be more private that an array of separate ones.
  
  Check out the specifications as well, using Pods you could have seperate accounts on every platform linked only by the ability to login using your Pod.
  
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  - Rottcodd@kbin.social ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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1984@lemmy.today ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Creating different accounts is the only way to have privacy in the first place. Different logins makes you look like you are different people. Which is the point.

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