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Virtually everything they have spread has been complete and utter bullshit. Including claims that somehow just standing within a 50 miles of a wind turbine will kill you. They’ve also repeatedly and consistently claimed that various groups oppose the turbines when in fact those groups support it.

Who is “they”? As I have just said, the opposition is from multiple groups so you need to specify who you are talking about here.

I doubt it’s coming from “conservatives”. There’s no evidence of that.

Did you bother to read the original article…? Conservative opposition to wind farms and renewable energy in general is not up for debate. It is obvious for everyone to see. You discredit yourself by even attempting to suggest otherwise.

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abhibeckert@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

Who is “they”?

“They” are anonymous, in part because some of their tactics are illegal. Such as attaching protest signs to world heritage listed trees which could be killed by the sign.

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- Ilandar@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  
  “They” are anonymous, in part because some of their tactics are illegal. The person in this article is guilty of trespassing for example.
  
  That person is Nick Cater, executive director of a conservative political think tank and writer for a conservative newspaper. He is not anonymous (he is literally named in third sentence of the article so stop lying about having read it - you obviously didn’t) and he is also not affiliated with Rainforest Reserves Australia or the Jirrbal people. Nor is he affiliated with Ark Energy, whose own environmental review admits that the project will negatively impact endangered species in the area, or the former principal botanist for the Queensland govenrment who is also opposed to the project as outlined here.
  
  Yes I did. I’m not disputing there’s opposition by some conservatives. But their opposition has mostly been far more reasonable.
  
  The guy you are accusing of “illegal tactics” is literally the conservative in this scenario.
  
  I’m talking more about the miss-information, such as claiming that the turbine blades were “secretly buried in a shallow grave” when in fact they and are being stored while waiting for someone to buy them.
  
  And this claim was published by a conservative journalist and circulated by conservative media. Again, read the article. None of your complaints have anything to do with the genuine opposition from environmental research groups and advocates.
  
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  - abhibeckert@beehaw.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Going back to your original comment:
    
    Clearly conservatives are jumping on the story in bad faith (as they always do) but the opposition from everyone else seems pretty legitimate
    
    I’m talking about “everyone else” when I say “they”. I’m not talking about Nick Cater.
    
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    Ilandar@aussie.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    
    I’m talking about “everyone else” when I say “they”. I’m not talking about Nick Cater. Obviously Nick isn’t anonymous.
    
    Sorry but you don’t get to change the narrative after the fact. You specifically mentioned “the person in this article…guilty of trespassing” and that is Nick Cater. Gaslighting doesn’t work when all your comments are still there for us to read so please just stop trying.
    
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