First two sound like tankies, but communism definitely could work :P
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Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago“America does bad things, so I should support china/russia instead!”
“Stalin/mao were (anything besides utterly reprehensible dictators)”
“Communism could’ve worked if-“
Honorable mention to thinking this coy “I’m going to act all hyper respectful and yet also like I know more than anyone about anything” bullshit gets you anywhere.
msage@programming.dev 2 months ago
Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Commune-ism sounds like a lovely idea on a small scale, you gotta solve a lot of political problems to make it work on anything bigger. Social democracies like the scandinavians seem to be the best way we currently know to run a humanitarian society.
msage@programming.dev 2 months ago
Are they though? I just feel like we aren’t solving the issues we ought to.
First, nobody gets hungry ever again.
Then, everybody gets roof over their head.
After that, we can start discussing the next steps.
And yes, we need to do this globally, with nobody left behind.
Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
That’s neither exclusive to communism nor has it been achieved in most purportedly communist states (I hear Vietnam’s actually been having a good run of things but I can’t speak to specifics).
Socialism != communism.
avonarret1@programming.dev 2 months ago
If you aren’t human, perhaps
msage@programming.dev 2 months ago
It’s like saying we are too stupid to survive.
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 2 months ago
That is not an unthinkable scenario. The universe is so vast yet there is no sign of life anywhere else. Why? Perhaps intelligent life simply isn’t intelligent enough and they always end up destroying themselves. A so called “great filter”. Is it behind us or ahead? Who knows.
avonarret1@programming.dev 2 months ago
How about “There will always be someone exploiting the system/people”
marcos@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So, you’ve been listening to lemmy.lm…
lakemalcom10@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I just have Lemmygrad blocked and I never see this
Wrench@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There’s a bunch of very active non-ml users that always turn any political discussion to “both sides are terrible, don’t vote for genocide”.
Once you start recognizing names (or blocking), it gets less depressing. But it does feel like there are a lot more racist enablers in the political communities than there really are, just because of how fervent those few users are.
irreticent@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Once you start recognizing names
One of my favorite features of the Boost app is they allow you to tag a username with whatever label you want. It really helps to highlight the users that regularly argue in bad faith, troll, etc.
msage@programming.dev 2 months ago
Though to be honest, tankies spouting #1 and #2 get heavily downvoted. I don’t even see them anymore, guess my instance defederated them, but they were never strong positions here.
Perhaps it’s the defederation, but my experience here does not resemble yours.
Shiggles@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
They’re mask off on hexbear/lemmygrad, they try to be subversive on lemmy.ml. I have in fact instance blocked the first two, you can usually dodge them on .ml. Lemmy is far less enjoyable if you have not blocked them.