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• lugal@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I don’t even understand what that means. And some educated tankies will explain away why Stalin was right and Spain wasn’t ready for a revolution. But some people don’t know stuff.

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  • orrk@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    it means that if you really believe that, you are gullible.

    and I know “educated” tankies have put a lot of effort into some ham fisted explanations for why this and that bust have been the case, but, straight factually, with all the evidence we have, it shows that the USSR was a fascistic imperialist dictatorship using the aesthetic of communism, nowhere that the USSR intervened was spared from it trying to control the region.

    infact that’s the entire reason we disparage them as tankies, because they support the use of tanks and military might to subjugate vassals and destroy any political group not preview to their control, political groups like workers not wanting to be controlled by some shareholder class (what, you think the Russian oligarchy came from nowhere over the last 30 years?) with little vested interest in the actual running of the workplace

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    • lugal@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That sounds like a big misunderstanding. I said that the bolsheviks were against the revolution in Spain and I thought you were the tankie disagreeing with me. What is your standpoint and what do you think mine is?

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      • orrk@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        so, first off, my standpoint is that the Bolshevik were against both of the revolutions because they wanted to quasi annex the Iberian Peninsula as another soviet client state.

        you, as far as i have understood, believe that the USSR supplied the spanish goverment under some noble “just help” goal instead of the backdoor annexation that the USSR has become famed for

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