Comment on People Want To Use Things But Not Own The Consequences Of Its Use.

• manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lot’s of anger at a straw-person there it seems. I’m suggesting they are unaware at a level that takes an understanding that there is an option and a desire to do so.

  Whats interesting is that in the last year I see more angry people like you rather than clueless ones.

  this tells me awareness is growing and thats good.

  be as angry as you want. ive been pissed since these people starting trying to take away the internet we paid to build.

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  • jocanib@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    FFS. There is no point lecturing people from on high. Talk about it, sure. Information is good. But moralising will do nothing useful. Point your fingers at the bad guys, not the people who are just trying to live their lives under mostly quite difficult circumstances. Improve the environment in which people are forced to make difficult trade-offs. Don’t bully them for facing difficult trade-offs and not being obsessed about exactly the same things you are. It will do you, or anyone else, any good. The problems are structural, fight the structures.

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    • Pandantic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Isn’t it difficult to initiate change to big companies without user pushback? What impetus do they have to change when their user base accepts what they are given? Sure, regulators and legislators should do something, but they aren’t going to do it on their own. People need to do their part, and mass exodus is something the media reports on. I’m not asking anyone to abandon these places entirely, especially if their communication with certain people relies on it, but anyone can move away from them to some extent. Just because it’s hard doesn’t mean it’s not with doing. Also, in no way am I saying that it is the users sole responsibility to bring down or hold these companies accountable, but it usually takes some grassroots to get something started.

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      • jocanib@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        People need to do a lot of things. Very few people have the time to do everything they’d like to do, let alone everything you’d like them to do.

        Attack the systems that trap us, not the people who are trapped by them. This is not hard.

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    • manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      im not sure where you are seeing this, unless you are speaking generally.

      if this is directed at me, I would say its this tone I get from people that would inspire me to look down and potentially lecture.

      as i am often told, its not what you are saying, its how you are saying it.

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      • Pandantic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Yeah, they really come off as an angry jerk when they’re telling us not to be jerks.

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