Comment on Finland school shooting: Bullying was the motive for attack that killed boy, 12, police say

wahming@monyet.cc ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• PlutoniumAcid@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “as much a victim” as a dead child? Hard no.

  Yes bullying is wrong, yes being bullied is bad, but killing is worse.

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  • wahming@monyet.cc ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m not about to blame a 12 year old for their actions. Life as a bullied kid can really, really suck. Depression and suicide are common effects of bullying, and as a kid you just don’t have the knowledge of how to deal with it.

    If you bully / mentally abuse somebody to the point that they commit suicide, my opinion is that you are just as culpable as if you had murdered them yourself. By that standard, I don’t see much difference if the victim decides to lash out and take their bully with them. Especially if you’re a kid with no long term perspective.

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    • eatthecake@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe if the 12 year old bully had been held responsible for his behaviour then none of this would have happened. But you can blame a 12 year old for their actions, right?

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      • wahming@monyet.cc ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I know you’re being sarcastic, but I actually do agree. It was on the adults to make the situation better, not expect kids to be empathetic enough to not bully others

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  • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    He was 12, this was on the adults that failed him

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    • wahming@monyet.cc ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Amazing how few people seem to get that

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  • awwwyissss@lemm.ee ⁨2⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Bullying kills more through suicide than shooters killing bullys with guns.

    It should never happen, but I don’t have much pity when a truly abusive bully gets removed from the gene pool.

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