Comment on ‘There wasn’t enough about the horror’: Hiroshima survivors react to Oppenheimer

• Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The mothers and babies who were incinerated by American nukes weren’t involved

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  • papertowels@lemmy.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Do you hold the Japanese military to the same standards w.r.t. their war crimes in East Asia?

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    • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes, yes I do hold them to that standard. The Japanese Army did atrocious things in China, and just like Americans, they justified it by claiming it was the lesser evil. I don’t understand why you think Japan’s war crimes are a justification for nuking a city. Especially since nobody knew about those atrocities at the time, and also because Americans have never cared about dead Chinese.

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      • brick@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ll make this simple for you: America did not want to be involved in the war that Japan forced them into. They were suffering mass casualties in the pacific theater. The Japanese were torturing US POWs and using suicide kamikaze attacks against US naval vessels which also resulted in huge numbers of casualties.

        They figured nuking these guys a couple of times would finally get them to fucking stop, and what do you know? It did. Mission accomplished. End of story.

        They were justified because doing that allowed them to finally stop getting killed and tortured by the nation that attacked them first. I too hate the fact that the Japanese imperial government put its people in such peril with so little regard for their safety.

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      • papertowels@lemmy.one ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think it’s much harder to justify systemic rape across months as being the “lesser” evil, but maybe that’s just me…

        A large number of rapes were done systematically by the Japanese soldiers as they went from door to door, searching for girls, with many women being captured and gang-raped.[49] The women were often killed immediately after being raped, often through explicit mutilation,[50] such as by penetrating vaginas with bayonets, long sticks of bamboo, or other objects.

        Your pleas to only target military and government targets would fall on much more sympathetic ears if the same country did not do this less than a decade ago.

        Again. This seems so much crueler than getting nuked. The decision to take civilian lives are being repeatedly made, over and over, in the sickest way possible for the enjoyment of the soldiers.

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  • brick@lemm.ee ⁨5⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Who is calling it a good thing? Nobody in this thread is celebrating the bombing. They are saying it was necessary or at least justified and they are more correct than you.

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