Comment on What can we do when something is too vast to provide representative examples for?

• Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  How could an infinite concept like the Mandelbrot set exist in a finite universe?

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  • Maalus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Simple, it doesn’t exist. Again, I ask you for proof. I’ll not be talking to you if you keep changing the subject. You wanted to know what would convince people, I gave you exactly what you asked for, and now you are moving goalposts. If you can’t provide concrete solid proof that god exists, of miracles, etc, then what are we even talking about here - you are asking people for faith and nothing more. Which is exactly what the topic of the conversation is - you can’t convince people with bullshit. You don’t have anything to back up your claims.

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    • Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s not that I’m moving the goalposts, atheists moved the goalposts to impossibility. If the universe is finite and there’s nothing infinite beyond, infinite concepts cannot exist. Neither can objective morality. It’s like looking at a cake and asking for evidence that somebody baked it.

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      • Maalus@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Ah yes, objective morality and the ‘maker argument’ which can be summed up to “if I go out in the woods, step on shit, look around, no animals that I can see, god must have shat himself”. That’s the thing - you can’t prove god exists. You filled in the gap with a mythology and think it’s the only explanation for life to exist. So you cannot bring proof. So you cannot convince an atheist that god exists because you yourself don’t even know that.

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      • Fal@yiffit.net ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If the universe is finite and there’s nothing infinite beyond, infinite concepts cannot exist.

        But how are mirrors real if your eyes don’t exist?

        See. I can post nonsense too

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