our goal? no. their goal? always.
Comment on China and Norway Lead the World’s EV Switchover
captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 8 months ago
I really hate how this goal keeps being stated. When did it become the unchallenged truth that everyone needs to buy an EV? The goal was supposed to be transportation without carbon emissions. That could be solved in so many ways, from maglev trains to wind-powered ships to pedal- or foot-powered commuting. It should be solved with smart infrastructure and transportation strategy, not just more consumption. 
There are even multiple ways to power a personal vehicle that don’t have carbon emissions, and some of the most interesting ones are still emerging - hydrogen, ammonia - yet we are forging ahead like battery electric vehicles are the silver bullet to all of our problems. We are not going to fix our world of reckless consumption with more consumption… but we are going to make the shareholders of a few automotive companies very rich. Was that our goal?
HoneyRoasted@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Zehzin@lemmy.world 7 months ago
But have you considered line go up?
Ohh@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
Agree. A new EV needs to drive many years to offset the carbon emission during production of said car. The best thing you can do for the environment (if you want to drive a car) is to keep driving the car you already have. Second best it’s too but a used car. It’s horrendous. We give tax credits to incentives people to buy new conspicuous shit, while punishing those that keep their old, healthy cars.
It’s totally Keyser Söze: the biggest trick the car industry pulled was convincing the public new, big EV cars were actually good for the environment.
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 7 months ago
arstechnica.com/…/new-ev-vs-old-beater-which-is-b…
According to a recent Reuters article using a model developed by the Argonne National Laboratory in Chicago, the point at which an EV’s carbon footprint meets and begins to fall below that of a comparable gas vehicle in the United States is at around 13,500 miles. So after an average year of driving, the EV is better for the environment. Beyond that, the gap widens.
Ohh@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
That’s cool. Thanks. It seems i stand corrected. I’ll look into it. Still it really shows how bad individual transportation is for the environment.
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Yeah, I agree. I think trains / other stuff would be much better too. Unfortunately, I don’t think it’s realistic to expect them to be as effective in countries like the US. At least not in the anywhere near future.
jose1324@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Hydrogen is stupid for personal transport