Comment on There's Nothing Green About Socialism - HumanProgress
psud@lemmy.world 1 year ago
And yet the United States with its unfettered capitalism has failed to be a world leader in environmentalism
That honour goes to Nordic and European social democracies
Sure you need to be sufficiently wealthy, but you also need to restrict capital so companies can not pollute, and have social policies to pay for the those solutions the market will not supply
traveler01@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The US is a bad example, and still is a greater example than the communist/socialist countries provided.
These nordic countries are pretty good example of how you can have capitalism with a great welfare state, without going socialist/communist. My guess is their main difference is that they don’t allow the richer companies to lobby on politicians, or at-least not as much as the US does.
psud@lemmy.world 1 year ago
The US — poster child for capitalism, creator of regulatory capture for ultimate best capitalism — is a poor example of a capitalist country?
Capitalism + regulation + welfare is the definition of socialism
Capitalism with strong regulation is so good that the Soviet Union used it; China uses it
traveler01@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Capitalism with strong regulation… the best example would be the nordic countries you believe are socialist.
psud@lemmy.world 1 year ago
Sure, I was using the examples I used to demonstrate that even revolutionary communism isn’t opposite to capitalism