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• mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  So, what you’re saying is you don’t really understand how data security works then.

  Because it’s never a ‘one and done’, it’s ALWAYS a cat and mouse game, ALWAYS.

  Which is why antivirus companies push definition updates.

  And now we do the same with AI detectors, or they become irrelevant.

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  • Syn_Attck@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This is where I get to lol and say you don’t understand AI.

    When a kernel privesc vuln is found, it gets fixed. Unless it was improperly fixed, that particular 0day can’t be exploited again.

    But when it comes to AI, a GAN’s job is to take the ‘vulnerability’ that was ‘fixed’ and train on it to exploit it again.

    And again.

    And again.

    And again.

    …wikipedia.org/…/Generative_adversarial_network

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    • mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s funny how people can just link to a wikipedia article about a ten year old thought experiment and think its some kind of mic drop moment. The current AI paradigm is starting to hit its singularity curve and hardly anything that old is anything more than a novelty and largely not applicable to current models, ESPECIALLY when it comes to modeling,

      We aren’t seeing this kind of iteritave adversity being used in actual real world attacks, and it is largely useless to train on a patched vulnerability.

      But I’m sure you already knew that, maybe your testing me?

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      • Syn_Attck@lemmy.today ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        10 year old thought experiment

        …

        github.com/search?q=generative+adversarial+networ…

        Do you remember last year when OpenAI pulled its own AI detection tool because it was performing so poorly?

        I forgot about that, but this article from 6 months ago comparing the effectiveness of major AI detection tools reminded me.

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