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Neon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

I’m sorry to break it to you, but look at how much E-Mail, the biggest open Standard has developed.

Without a central Authority behind it, Developement doesn’t work.

Heck, even with a central authority it’s difficult. Just look how many Businesses still use Java 8.

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neutron@thelemmy.club ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Speaking of email, spam becomes an inevitable problem. Anyone in theory can spin up a federated bot instance to spam the hell out of everyone.

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rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
XMPP actually started becoming better fast after those authorities (like Google) dropped it.

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- Neon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  It sounds paradoxical, but that’s exactly what i meant.
  
  There were multiple authorities with different ideas which blocked developement. As soon as there was only one Authority left, developement sped up rapidly.
  
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  - rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Sorry, but no, that’s not how it happened.
    
    There were multiple authorities with different ideas which blocked developement.
    
    Google didn’t block anything, just rolled out XEPs which its client supported and others sometimes did, sometimes didn’t, and didn’t really want to, because, first, around 2007 the expected requirements to an IM were different, so nobody felt pressed, second, they didn’t discuss it with anyone.
    
    So, for example, Jingle (VoIP) support was more like a toy - a few clients had it, but disabled by default and nobody cared to test it much.
    
    As soon as there was only one Authority left, developement sped up rapidly.
    
    Eh, and which would that be? What I see is exactly how useful XEPs were introduced by different people, and sometimes even replaced old XEPs for the same purpose, organically, with no authority involved.
    
    By market forces, one could say.
    
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    Neon@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah, of course google didn’t physically block anything, But you had multiple visions diverging and that harmed progress.
    
    , and which would that be?
    
    The enthusiasts faction running the servers.
    
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rottingleaf@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
What do you need in email that isn’t already there?

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0x0@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Interesting how the companies mentioned in the article came up with DKIM and others, a Think of the Children™ argument but for spam, only to consolidate their own services as monopolies and walling-out anyone not using @them.

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