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Comment on House panel unanimously approves bill that could ban TikTok

This idea that tiktok is any worse because it’s Chinese is ridiculous.

Either the propaganda is working or there’s no hope for any of us. And I’m not saying this facetiously.

The idea of a company in China versus in the West is very different. In the West a company has near complete autonomy within the confines of law in the democratic country it’s in. In China, a company is completely beholden to the will of the CCP. Smaller companies are not worth getting involved with, but larger companies like Bytedance and Baidu are effectively corporate offices of the CCP.

We’re talking about a communist dictatorship that’s constantly threatening Taiwan with invasion and death threats. Goes around the South China Sea harassing the countries there by attacking their military and civilian ships with high power water cannons. Putting nets and markers right up against those same countries, in some instances within 50 or so kilometers. Then there’s the ongoing genocide of the Uyghur people. The constant suppression of any negative news. The complete isolation of its people from accessing the internet or news from the rest of the world. It just goes on.

China is an adversarial power to Western nations and even many Asian ones.

The issue isn’t that Bytedance is simply Chinese. The issue is that China does not allow a single bit of information leaving its borders without its explicit say so. Which is why any Chinese company that conducts any business outside China has CCP officials stationed at the company’s offices and have to examine and approve everything that goes out.

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Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
So what’s the difference between the CCP getting it for free from Tiktok and paying for it from an “American” corporation?

None of what you said matters in this. Not when Zuckerberg is specifically courting China to spend advertising dollars and buy data.

Is the money changing hands making the end effect any different?

TikTok is both a sacrifice to make it look like something is being done and a called hit on a competitor.

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- CeeBee@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  So what’s the difference between the CCP getting it for free from Tiktok and paying for it from an “American” corporation?
  
  Whataboutism at its finest.
  
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  - Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    That word does not mean what you think it means. In fact throwing China’s human rights record out there like it matters in preventing American consumer data from flowing to China is far closer to whataboutism.
    
    The only thing that matters in stopping American Consumer Data from being collected by the CCP is stopping American Consumer Data from being collected by the CCP.
    
    If that’s your stated goal then you need to hold all the data vendors accountable, not just the scary Chinese one. Because there’s nothing stopping them from selling it to China right now. There’s a whole chain of articles about Facebook and Meta doing this for over a decade. And you’re worried only about Tiktok.
    
    Gee I wonder why that might be?
    
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    CeeBee@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    The only thing that matters in stopping American Consumer Data from being collected by the CCP is stopping American Consumer Data from being collected by the CCP.
    
    And how is this accomplished when the CCP has direct control and direct access to the company that develops the app collecting the data?
    
    And you’re worried only about Tiktok.
    
    Well that’s a massive assumption. Please show me where I said “I’m only worried about TikTok”.
    
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