Comment on Lemmy's Image Problem

• masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  There are zero obligations towards the people actively using the software.

  Yes, there are, and that obligation is to not publish something as production ready if it is illegal to use because of how it’s built.

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  • CeeBee@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yes, there are, and that obligation is to not publish something as production ready if it is illegal to use because of how it’s built.

    No, there really isn’t. Do I feel that project owners should follow good practices for maintaining clean code that also allows users to keep things legal? Absolutely I do.

    But that is not the same thing as an obligation. If there was a single cent exchanged between the devs and anyone else (donations do not count) then this conversation would be entirely different.

    I don’t agree with the devs’ stance. But it is 100% their prerogative to say no. It’s their project, not ours.

    I’m a software developer, I understand exactly how frustrating user demands are

    As am I.

    that was still a completely and utterly unacceptable way to respond to a very politely worded request

    I agree.

    As the commenter pointed out, if you don’t want to fix it, fine, but then you absolutely have a moral, ethical, and professional obligation to document that clearly in your README.md.

    No, you absolutely do not. Although I do somewhat agree on the professional part, but it’s still not an obligation. It’s completely unprofessional, but that’s different than it being an obligation.

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    • masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The word obligation is not as narrow as you’re using it:

      obligation /ŏb″lĭ-gā′shən/

      noun A social, legal, or moral requirement, such as a duty, contract, or promise, that compels one to follow or avoid a particular course of action. “Are you able to meet your obligations?” “I have an obligation to attend their wedding.”

      Does he have a contractual obligation? No, no contracts were signed. Does he have a legal obligation? No, the license file in the project absolves him of legal liability.

      But he absolutely has a moral, social, and professional obligation to do so.

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      • CeeBee@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        If you want to apply such a better definition, then you have an obligation to learn Rust and submit a PR to bring the project into compliance. You have a societal obligation since you are aware of the issue and use Lemmy.

        You owe it to your fellow Lemmites. Lemurs? Lemmings? Whatever the term for a Lemmy user is.

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