Comment on Hare's first versioned release, 0.24.0

rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• AriosThePhoenix@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Funny you mention Rust - one of Hares lead devs (and I believe the original creator), Drew DeVault, has been pretty vocal about his dislike for Rust, especially in the low-level and Linux kernel world. Here’s an article by him about the subject:

  drewdevault.com/…/Does-Rust-belong-in-Linux.html

  IIRC correctly hare has more of a “trust the programmer” approach to things such as memory management.

  Personallly, as a programmer who who trusts no one and especially not myself, I don’t think Hare is for me (and i disagree wit a lot of Drews points.) But that’s just my two cents.

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  • darkmatternoodlecow@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If there’s one thing the history of computers has shown us beyond the shadow of doubt, it is that programmers cannot under any circumstance be trusted to manage memory.

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  • rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I suppose I can respect that opinion on memory management, but also disagree that we should always trust the programmer. I was mostly commenting on the syntax, if it weren’t for the fact that I was on the website for Hare I would have thought it was Rust.

    It’s got a lot of good ideas from what I saw in the quick guide, but I feel like lifetimes are the next step for memory management in general. If they really want manual memory management to be default, they could continue to flip Rust and make a safe attribute for functions

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    • Lmaydev@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think the exact opposite to them. Humans are almost always the weakest link. The more you can automate the better.

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