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Why are you so insistent on rubber on asphalt over steel on steel? Automation is much easier and further along on tracks. Why such a fanboy for private capital over the freedom of a municipality to come together and solve a problem in a cheap and affordable way?

Lol, you so insistently want to believe that I’m a car loving tech bro that you’re literally not reading anything I’m writing.

I’m pro public transit, I agree that it’s more efficient and produces better cities and communities than ones built around cars, I tend to vote socialist, and don’t own a car and have no love for them or what they’ve done to society, however, I’m just not delusional about how long it takes to a) built enough mass transit that people don’t need cars and b) move everyone to be live near that mass transit and c) to solve for every edge case like the elderly, people driving out to remote cottages, deliveries, the sick and elderly, etc. Even if you had the public and political willpower to enact those changes (which you very very very clearly don’t), it would still take longer to do all of that, by like an order of magnitude, then it will to improve self driving cars to the point of wide availability.

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barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Self driving cars we’re talking like a decade, the kind of societal changes you’re describing take a generation.

The kind of changes I’m talking about are happening, even in the US, right now. It’s you who’s lobbying against them by saying “can’t be done”, “not fast enough” completely ignoring what’s happening in actual cities all over the place. How about “hey why are the Mormons of all people more progressive than our city”, instead?

Also for an purported supporter of public transport you ripped into /r/fuckcars quite a lot. WTH are you even doing over on the snoo site.

You literally have to wait for every suburban stick in the mud to be willing to move out of their home or die before you can achieve your car-free dream.

No. Railcar suburbs once existed and existing car-dependent single-home suburbs can be turned into them by, as I already explained, densifying around the stations. Which has been done, and is being done, and would come soon also to your city if you bothered to argue for it.

As to me personally: I never owned a car. Never needed one.

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- masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Lmfao, you’re such a dumb arrogant prick.
  
  Learn how to read dumbass.
  
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  - barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    No. Railcar suburbs once existed and existing car-dependent single-home suburbs can be turned into them by, as I already explained, densifying around the stations. Which has been done, and is being done, and would come soon also to your city if you bothered to argue for it.
    
    Learn how to read.
    
    Yeah that’s not how you actually argue. What am I supposed to read in that context? You’re deflecting.
    
    As to me personally: I never owned a car. Never needed one.
    
    I didn’t ask and I don’t care.
    
    You said this:
    
    You literally have to wait for every suburban stick in the mud to be willing to move out of their home or die before you can achieve your car-free dream.
    
    No, it’s not a dream. No, I’m not living in the city centre, either. You’re, again, deflecting in a desperate attempt to deny reality, denying the change that’s happening even in places that are culturally extremely car-centric.
    
    Touch grass.
    
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    masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Yeah that’s not how to argue. What am I supposed to read in that context? You’re deflecting.
    
    It means reread what you wrote and then reflect on what it might have already been contradicted dumbass. Maybe reflect on what I’ve said about my political views instead of injecting the tech bro stereotype youve made up.
    
    No, it’s not a dream. No, I’m not living in the city centre, either.
    
    Congratulations bro. There are still cars all around you and you would still be safer if they were autonomous.
    
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