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frezik@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Who’s “we” here?

Public funding for research; in other words, all of us.

A bunch of companies connected to the oil industry want hydrogen to happen, because the oil industry knows they’re the only economical source of hydrogen. Even among them, Toyota is about the only one who was willing to do the full nose dive into the tech, and it’s biting them in the ass.

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ShepherdPie@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Forgive me but which of these major manufacturers rely on publicly funded research when designing new vehicles?

Also where’s your source for companies like GM, Honda, and Toyota being connected to the oil industry and doing their bidding when it comes to releasing new vehicles? How is it biting them in the ass? Toyota is currently on the forefront of solid state battery tech for BEVs. Perhaps you shouldn’t believe every article you read on the internet.

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- frezik@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Forgive me but which of these major manufacturers rely on publicly funded research when designing new vehicles?
  
  Public funding tends to go on at universities. Major manufactureres then buy the patents and take the credit.
  
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  - ShepherdPie@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    According to whom? Companies also do tons of research since they’re building proprietary products to sell. Which patents used in my Toyota Camry were publicly funded?
    
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