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barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

ou know what’s a harder problem that will take longer than decades? Reorienting all of society around villages and public transportation and forcing people to move and abandon their cottages.

It’s not that hard and no you don’t need to re-do the whole country to make a massive impact. Making a random US city walkable would take like five years max if you actually set your mind to it.

No one’s arguing against public transportation. Stop trying to make it sound like this is a car vs. public transportation thing, when it’s people trashing autonomous cars and not other cars.

Then why are you bringing up strawmen “but we need delivery vans” when I was specifically talking about individual transportation being bad? Ten cars getting replaced by a car share is good, one car getting replaced by one autonomous car is bullshit: It’s not self-driving that will address the systemic issues with transportation. Just as many cars on just as impassable roads won’t make them safer for pedestrians. I get being excited by a technology but it’s far from a silver bullet, on its own it addresses quite literally nothing of relevance.

And because trains don’t get you to the last mile, roads do.

As do collect taxis. Do I have to repeat that five times more.

Again, you’d still have a delivery person for critical deliveries, they just wouldn’t be driving. Is someone asshole wants to stop ambulance right now they can too.

If someone wants to stop an ambulance the driver will go around them, or go out and curse their ass off until they move, or right-out push their car out of the way (because yes with blue lights on you have the right to ram, over here, the offending driver will be sent a bill for the repair of the ambulance and face criminal charges). Good luck teaching an AI to make those calls.

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