Is it worth the risk to just stop having a Discord. Users that really care will use something else?
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ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 8 months agoI mean, I don’t disagree with you, but our forums are dead. Our users do seem to like Discord, we also have a Matrix and IRC but those are dead too. Discord is where our users seem to flock to.
tabular@lemmy.world 8 months ago
technom@programming.dev 8 months ago
There is one possible explanation for that conundrum. There are two types of people who are looking for solutions:
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Those who want quick answers. They don’t want to do the research - to see if the problem has been addressed before. They don’t care about if the question has been asked before.
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Those who prefer searching for solutions. They don’t like joining any community just to search for those solutions.
Group 2 is going to be very invisible to you (maintainers), because they ask questions only if they can’t solve the problem themselves and nobody has asked it before. (I know this because that’s me). This group isn’t a minority.
Group 1 is the vocal type that you are more likely to interact with, since their first instinct is to ask. If you provide them a choice between forums and chat rooms, they always choose chats because that’s where they can get away with providing minimal background information on their questions.
This doesn’t mean that the majority of your users are happy with chatrooms. It’s just that your observations are going to show this survivorship bias.
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expr@programming.dev 8 months ago
You’re the maintainer and presumably you control the discord server. You can decide to move things to a more available platform by removing Discord as an option.
crispy_kilt@feddit.de 8 months ago
What is really happening is that people are looking for documentation or support, seeing that the forum, the IRC and the Matrix are dead, that the only other thing is discord, and give up. Minus some fraction who already use it for other purposes (gaming, probably) and don’t mind using it.
But from your perspective, it looks like everybody is joinin discord and liking it, because all of the normal people just give up. It’s only a very particular demographic that uses discord. Most likely young, male, gamer, european descendent, and from a relatively wealthy western country.
If you as the maintainer go and use the forums, and maybe announce this in discord, the users will follow.
towerful@programming.dev 8 months ago
Like a survivorship bias?
technom@programming.dev 8 months ago
Ooh! I’m surprised that somebody made the same conclusion, but from a different perspective.
JackiesFridge@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m a member of a Discord that is the primary source of discussion and information about a piece of hardware, including technical & usage tips, firmware announcements, etc. It’s a terrible way to track this stuff.
That said, the only other forums that have decent communities around it are Reddit, Facebook, and Elektronauts - none of which are even close to as active, but in which many of us will post important info & tips to get the news out. Over 3 years into the project (which is not open source) it would be ridiculous to try shifting the whole community to a new platform. We’re kinda stuck.
Luckily the community as a whole seems to realise this, so we happily answer noob questions over and over and provide links to the appropriate resources, discussions, and pinned posts without snark or judgement. We’ve all been there. It’s the nature of the beast, it’s not efficient, and it’s not the end of the world.
Finally, with the state of search engines in decline due to monetisation, encroachment of AI bloat, and general enshittification, it’s a matter of time before very little real information will be easily searchable. Insular communities who decide to withdraw and do everything their own, better way will likely become the norm. The internet needs a reset anyway.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
We have been using the forums. It’s been announced in Discord, we have a webhook that posts in our main Discord channel every time there’s a post in our main forum section.
We are using the forums. Our forums are still dead.