Comment on Chinese migrants are fastest growing group crossing into U.S. from Mexico | 60 Minutes

• jimbolauski@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Up until a week ago nobody knew what was in it, dems were only releasing bullet points. Once people read it they opposed it.

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  • PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You can read it for yourself and make your own decisions rather than relying on people who hate America to interpret it for you.

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    • jimbolauski@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can read it for yourself and make your own decisions rather than relying on people who hate America to interpret it for you.

      Don’t worry I won’t rely on you to interpret it for me.

      The 4,000 number that triggers a border close doesn’t close it, it only gives the option to close it.

      (A) DISCRETIONARY ACTIVATION.—The Secretary may activate the border emergency authority if, during a period of 7 consecutive calendar days, there is an average of 4,000 or more aliens who are encountered each day.

      Then there’s the 5000 trigger but naturally there are exceptions.

      © An unaccompanied alien child. (D) An alien who an immigration officer determines, with the approval of a supervisory immigration officer, should be excepted from the border emergency authority based on the totality of the circumstances … (F) An alien who has a valid visa or other lawful permission to enter the United States, including— … (iv) an alien who presents at a port of entry pursuant to a process approved by the Secretary to allow for safe and orderly entry into the United States.

      Even those loopholes were not enough so they made sure they could ignore the mandatory closing.

      Whenever the border emergency authority is activated, the Secretary shall have the authority, in the Secretary’s sole and unreviewable discretion, to summarily remove from and prohibit, in whole or in part, entry into the United States of any alien identified in subsection (a)(3) who is subject to such authority in accordance with this subsection.>

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      • PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        So, just to be clear, the border should be closed even to people with who valid visas or are otherwise lawfully permitted to enter into the U.S. when the border emergency authority is activated?

        Like, if an Israeli citizen shows up and wants to get through…they should be rejected?

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    • MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      But let me guess. You’re just going to cry anyway when people read it and decide that it fucking sucks?

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      • PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You never know until you try

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  • PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Matter of fact, I’ll do some reading for you. You tell me if these things are bad.

    For an additional amount for ‘‘U.S. Immigration and19 Customs Enforcement—Operations and Support’’,$7,600,833,000, to remain available until September 30, 2026: Provided, That of the total amount provided under this heading in this Act, $3,230,648,000 shall be for increased custodial detention capacity, $2,548,401,000 shall be for increased removal flights and related activities, including short-term staging facilities, $534,682,000 shall be for hiring U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement personnel, and $1,287,102,000 shall be for increased enrollment capabilities and related activities within the Alternatives to Detention program…

    ADMINISTRATION FOR CHILDREN AND FAMILIES REFUGEE AND ENTRANT ASSISTANCE5 For an additional amount for ‘‘Refugee and Entrant Assistance’’, $350,000,000, to remain available until expended, for carrying out section 235©(5)(B) of the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008

    DEPARTMENT OF STATE INTERNATIONAL NARCOTICS CONTROL AND LAW ENFORCEMENT For an additional amount for ‘‘International Narcotics Control and Law Enforcement’’, $25,000,000, to re main available until September 30, 2025, to counter the flow of fentanyl, fentanyl precursors, and other synthetic drugs into the United States…

    SEC. 3203. INTERNAL RELOCATION. (a) IN GENERAL .—Section 208(b)(2)(A) of the Im migration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1158(b)(2)(A)) is amended—

    • (1) in clause (v), by striking ‘‘or’’ at the end;
    • (2) in clause (vi), by striking the period at the end and inserting ‘‘; or’’; and
    • (3) by adding at the end the following: ‘‘(vii) there are reasonable grounds for concluding that the alien could avoid persecution by relocating to—‘‘(I) another location in the alien’s country of nationality; or‘‘(II) in the case of an alien having no nationality, another location in the alien’s country of last habitual residence.’’.

    ‘(b) BORDER EMERGENCY AUTHORITY DESCRIBED .—

    ‘‘(1) IN GENERAL .—Whenever the border emergency authority is activated, the Secretary shall have the authority, in the Secretary’s sole and unreviewable discretion, to summarily remove from and prohibit, in whole or in part, entry into the United States of any alien identified in subsection (a)(3) who is subject to such authority in accordance with this subsection.

    All of those sections can be found in the link of my other comment. So, this isn’t even interpretation, just what is exactly in the bill.

    What is here that’s worth opposing exactly?

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    • ConMod@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thats not nearly all of it, thats a tiny snippet.

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      • PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeah, which means there’s more stuff that you’d probably find appealing in it!

        Because if you read Republican criticisms of the bill, there’s no policy discussion. It’s not bad because tens of millions isn’t enough, or because ICE wasn’t given enough power to deport immigrants in the country with authorization, or anything else. It’s just bad, just dead on arrival, just a crap sandwich. No reasoning given for why, just that it is.

        They’re abusing your trust in them to lie to you. The bill has what you want in it. It has what they want in it. So why isn’t it being passed?

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      • MomoTimeToDie@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m genuinely curious how you look at threads like this where he does nothing except be a total fucking condescending jackass and think “yeah, it’s reasonable to have this guy deciding who’s in good faith”

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