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Comment on I love Mastodon and ActivityPub. But I think Nostr is going to win. Here's why.

This assumes platforms win based on technical details, which they don’t. Mastodon will probably ‘win’ (whatever that means) because of network effects and general culture.

Nostr has an optional built-in tipping functionality where you can leave tips for users whose content you like. You can tip a fraction of a penny or $100. And users can tip you. This has a few effects. For one, it incentivizes people to use nostr. Non-profit orgs, for example, can use it to fundraise.

But user have to be technically minded enough, and willing, to set up a crypto wallet to do this.

In mastodon, admins can read your DMs. If you DM somebody on another instance, that’s two instances that can read your DMs, and so can anybody who breaks into their server. In nostr, all DMs are encrypted by default and can only be read by the intended recipient.

E2E encryption is possible with AP. Besides, if what you’re talking about needs to be unreadable to third parties, you should probably use something like Matrix or Signal, especially considering how bad Mastodon’s DMs actually are.

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xep@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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Ah, thank you for this piece of information. Nostr is not for me.

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- makeasnek@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  You don’t have to do anything with crypto, it just supports crypto integration if you want to tip other users. Just like reddit did. It’s an optional feature.
  
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makeasnek@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

But user have to be technically minded enough, and willing, to set up a crypto wallet to do this.

True. That would be true of any platform which allows tips, you’d have to connect to some source of money whether it be paypal or crypto. Paypal’s fees would be prohibitively expensive but it would be theoretically doable. Either way, it’s a <5 minute setup process if they care to do it.

Interesting I didn’t know AP supported E2E. I guess it’s Mastodon that doesn’t support that element of the AP protocol then?

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- flamingos@ukfli.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  True. That would be true of any platform which allows tips, you’d have to connect to some source of money whether it be paypal or crypto. Paypal’s fees would be prohibitively expensive but it would be theoretically doable. Either way, it’s a <5 minute setup process if they care to do it.
  
  But people already have Paypal and understand how to use it. Most people don’t understand cryptocurrency, and don’t want anything to do with it because of its association with scams.
  
  Interesting I didn’t know AP supported E2E. I guess it’s Mastodon that doesn’t support that element of the AP protocol then?
  
  Here’s the issue.
  
  Also, I looked in to Nostr a bit for this and do you seriously think profile links like this will catch on with people?
  
  primal.net/…/460c25e682fda7832b52d1f22d3d22b3176d…
  
  Say what you want about AP, but usernames like <(at) makeasnek (at) lemmy.ml> are at least memorable. How am I suppose to tell someone IRL about my Nostr profile, say of a 64 bit string out loud?
  
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  - halm@leminal.space ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Most people don’t understand cryptocurrency, and don’t want anything to do with it because of its association with scams
    
    This is exactly why I won’t touch Nostr or any blockchain project with a ten foot pole. The crypto Bros are really trying to legitimise the technology so one day they can use the Monopoly money they stashed away.
    
    I’m sad that this connection is only mentioned in a third level comment, potential users should be aware what they’re getting into with Nostr.
    
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  - makeasnek@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    But people already have Paypal and understand how to use it. Most people don’t understand cryptocurrency, and don’t want anything to do with it because of its association with scams.
    
    Fair. It’s an optional feature, you don’t have to use it. The benefit from the platform perspective is that the fees are stupid low so micropayments can work well. Like 1c on $5 low.
    
    Also, I looked in to Nostr a bit for this and do you seriously think profile links like this will catch on with people?
    
    The nostr username schema isn’t great. There’s a couple protocol proposals to simplify them, they will look a lot more like username@website.com in the future. AP currently is doing way better at this.
    
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