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Comment on Apple employees outnumbered customers at Vision Pro launch in San Francisco's Union Square

le_saucisson_masquay@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Apple died with Steve Jobs. Maybe Tim Cook should try carrot juice, because I haven’t seen any real vision from Apple since then.

Every year it’s just small improvement over product lines that already exist. Sure I appreciate to have widget on my screen now but where are the iPods, iPhone, MacBooks of today ? I mean revolutionary product that gave people lots of confidence into tech.

By now I would have think Apple would be already deep into artificial intelligence but no.

About the Vision Pro, what would Jobs (who refused to have stylus on iPad because it’s cumbersome) think of it ? Heavy, battery doesn’t last and you got a fucking wire constantly connecting the helmet to the battery ??

Honestly I don’t get it, it’s like headless chickens running in circle at Apple headquarters.

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Telodzrum@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The M series chips are fucking incredible, that’s all I’ve got though.

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- le_saucisson_masquay@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yeah the switch to arm chip can be seen as big in some ways but it doesn’t feel like a complete new product.
  
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JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The Vision Pro is literally a new product line that has multiple innovations over current competitors.

Artificial intelligence is such a buzzword these days it’s tough to determine what your meaning is here. Apple uses machine learning all over the place.

As far as actual artificial intelligence - machine consciousness akin to a human mind - how would you know? Apple doesn’t make a habit of announcing their ventures before their marketable.

Without their respective batteries, the weight of the Meta Quest Pro is 522 grams. The Vision Pro is 532.

The three batteries in the power pack are 3000mah each. Again, not sure if the complaint here is overall capacity, or that the headset is power inefficient. These could be valid if they’d implemented recharging in a worse manner, but it can be charged while in use by either another battery bank or an electrical socket.

Ignoring the contradiction on Steve Jobs, yes he was persistent in his vision, but he also understood the physical limits of technology. A stylus at the time of the original iPad would not have been a slim, precision tool. Look at the Wacom CTH661 - bit cumbersome if you ask me.

There are criticisms to be made of the Vision Pro, and certainly of Apple, but you’ve made none of them here.

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- le_saucisson_masquay@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  All of that is subjective, to me it really doesn’t feel like the revolutionary product that Apple used to deliver during jobs but I can understand how someone would see it different.
  
  Personally beyond every physical criticism on the product, I just look at the wow factor. When the iPhone released, almost everyone understood how its the new shit and everything else is obsolete. Same for iPods. I don’t feel like Vision Pro made the other headset obsolete.
  
  Beside about the stylus for iPad, I’m convinced it was not the size the issue but that jobs wanted people to interact with tech in the most natural possible way, aka finger.
  
  It was his vision, for the better and the worst, but at least it gives a direction. Cook bought some time by slowly offering stuffs that jobs vision forbade, like a stylus, keyboard for iPad, bigger and bigger iPhone and new variants, customization on iOS, and so on. But by doing that he slowly killed jobs vision and Apple is left nowadays without anything else but desire for greed.
  
  The Vision Pro looks just like another corporation product, nothing revolutionary.
  
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  - JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Quick recap:
    
    new product line
    
    machine learning
    
    secretive development process
    
    unit weight vs competition
    
    battery capacities
    
    decade old product form factors
    
    You can’t label any of that subjective and go on to say it’s all about the wow factor. As if there could be anything more subjective.
    
    Cheers for the laugh though.
    
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    le_saucisson_masquay@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Oh come on, don’t flex on battery capacity and unit weight. This is stupid, anyone with Apple ressource can make an oculus quest with bigger battery, better display and lighter. That’s not what made Apple so wealthy, original iPhone was way heavier than other phone and had shity screen resolution, it didn’t even have a keyboard… yet they are all dead or heavily copied on iPhone.
    
    And wtf does secret development process and new product line got to do with its success ? New garbage get developed daily and goes right to the trash when it doesn’t sell.
    
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