Comment on Sounds like Haier is opening the door!

x4740N@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

• scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Oh absolutely agree, but this is where they can use it.

  The dev can say that they obviously need an official plugin, and work with them on that because now they have 1,800 clones of an unofficial one that may not be optimized.

  We also get to know that our tiny HA community has hit a critical mass large enough to get a corpo to freak out a bit

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  • SoleInvictus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I did my part and sent them a “do this and I’ll never buy a Haier product” email. Corporations exist to maximize profits. Communities like ours just have to learn how to make it clear to them that shutting us out will hurt their profitability.

    I think we should all be really proud of ourselves. We banded together and, regardless of WHY Haier is doing this, got them to open a line of communication. This is a huge win!

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    • CurbsTickle@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yup, sent an email and left a message, calling out Haier, GE, Fisher Paykel, etc as not on my list anymore due to this behavior.

      I’ll call it a win when it’s fully resolved though.

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• NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yes it is.

  The whole point of spreading the word about an incident like this is to get public attention on it, and make the company realize that the way they’ve handled things was bad.

  A letter like this indicates that they’ve realized they fucked up and they want to do things differently going forward. That doesn’t mean they’re suddenly trustworthy, but it does mean they can be negotiated with.

  The correct response is to accept the offer of working together. We want to encourage companies to be cooperative and discourage insular, proprietary behavior. If you slap away the offered hand then you discourage future cooperation, and now you’re the roadblock to developing an open system.

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  • delcake@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Exactly this. I understand the cynicism, but it ultimately doesn’t matter what the motivation of a company walking back a poor decision is. We take the chance for mutual collaboration and hopefully everyone benefits.

    On an individual level, that’s when people can evaluate if they still want to boycott and do whatever their own moral compass demands. But refusing to work together at this point just means we definitely don’t get the chance in the future to steer things in a better direction.

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    • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And even if the cooperation doesn’t last, it’s an opportunity for the open source developers to work with the product engineers and get direct information from them right now. There’s nothing as valuable as talking to the guy that actually designed the thing, or the guy who can make changes to the product code.

      Even if that relationship doesn’t hold long term, the information gathered in the short term will be useful.

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  • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nope.

    They’re on the ropes.

    Keep pummeling them. There’s no integrity behind this, and going along will just let them get away with their bad behaviour.

    They played the “We’ll sue your ass off” card first. That means it’s already in the legal realm, they never even triedto work with the OSS community, they basically said “fuck you” until the community replied, very clearly.

    Had the community not responded by replicating the repo 1000+ times, and making a story about it, they would’ve continued down the path of slapping the little guy around.

    They now realize they can’t compete with potentially 1000 people working on this, against them. They also fear they’ve pissed off some technophile who has some serious skills or connections. Wonder if they saw a sudden increase in probes on their internet interfaces.

    Make it hurt. Let them be the cautionary tale.

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