Buy Zigbee in cases where there isn’t a Matter alternative. It’s not quite as interoperable as Matter but it’s fully offline once setup (and some newer coordinators have dual zigbee/Matter support). Avoid cloud connected WiFi devices like the plague.
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APassenger@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Matter. Get it adopted. Buy and implement only Matter devices in the future.
Needs a year or two, but if we can get that tech widespread, this cloud stuff will be less essential.
vividspecter@lemm.ee 9 months ago
theUnlikely@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
I love my single TRÅDFRI Zigbee lightbulb.
iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Not sure why I’d want some private cloud system when HA can work on its own. I’d go zigbee, which doesn’t require any cloud.
APassenger@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Matter works with HA and HA works with matter, keeping it local and easier (is the hope).
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Eh? Matter is an open source standard, not proprietary in the slightest.
iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Matte
Well the link went straight to a Google page. Many people here is trying to avoid Google services/products, so it made me suspicious.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Or, you know, just don’t buy smart devices. They are pointless wastes of money and don’t solve any problem but the imaginary problem their marketing made you think actually exists.
Which is better than just supporting something that google, amazon, and apple have developed. Which makes it inherently suspect anyone with a brain should have an intense primal need to avoid.
APassenger@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Matter, if implemented correctly, would save them all money and allow the privacy conscious to drop the cloud.
They are losing money on their voice assistants, so they want out of the business of being the voice part of the central hub.
They’ll find ways to monetize the users who are less privacy concerned, but that’s not me and I think it’s not a lot of people who are here.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I don’t care if you did down or up vote me.
Being upvoted doesnt make someone right, and being downvoted doesnt make someone wrong. Its just empty, addiction-driven gamification of human interaction that is completely devoid of any legitimate or good or purpose.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Its just empty, addiction-driven gamification of human interaction that is completely devoid of any legitimate or good or purpose.
Or, you know, just maybe, it’s another form of communication, and does have some use.
wigit@infosec.pub 9 months ago
Username checks out…
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Never heard that one before, So original!
Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
There are problems they can actually solve, mostly heating and power related:
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In summer, lower the blinds on south facing windows when the sun comes up to reduce solar heating, then raise them in the evening to increase air flow against the window panes. This reduces the need for air conditioning, resulting in a surprising amount of power saved.
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On a home solar system, start the washing machine, dishwasher, and dryer that were loaded in the morning when the batteries reach 80% charge. Allow them to run off the inverter rather than taking the charge/discharge losses involved in battery storage, reducing the size of both battery bank and solar array needed.
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Lower the freezer temperature when there is a power surplus, and raise it back to normal when not so that cooling energy is used when it’s cheapest/most available
If you don’t work from home, you can’t do the second two yourself. They require automation. Reducing baseload requirements and battery storage needs can make a transition to renewable power much cheaper and more efficient. With mass adoption, that extends to power grids and not just off-grid homes, and has significant effects on things like the amount of lithium that needs to be mined or the number of coal and LNG power plants that are needed fo r times that at iff-peak for wind and solar generation.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 months ago
[deleted]Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
literally no one will ever have that problem, but lets humor your ridiculous made up bullshit
Wow, your username really fits.
Actually, it’s a description of some of the issues I’m dealing with right now. And yes, we’re DIYing it with ethernet wired switching outlets on a separate clan and subnet. And yes, we use a chest freezer.
And yes, there are more automatic and passive ways to do some of these things, like planting deciduous trees to shade your south wall in summer but not winter. Not everyone owns their home and land though.
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skizzles@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
That’s interesting.
Here is a better link for it that isn’t pushing Google products. Not implying you are doing that, just wanted to provide a non Google link is all.
csa-iot.org/all-solutions/matter/