Comment on Kagi is now partnering with Brave

• steerclear@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  To better understand (and definitely not dismissing your opinion), was Brave where you drew the line as a customer or was Google, Amazon, etc also of concern where Kagi pays for services?

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  • abhibeckert@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A lot of people really don’t like Eich. When he was promoted from CTO to CEO of Mozilla, half of Mozilla’s board resigned (one said it was because she refused to be a member of the board that appointed him, the other two didn’t say why they resigned) and there was a massive campaign to get rid of him including websites that showing popups to all FireFox users telling them to use another browser because if Eich.

    He lasted 11 days as CEO of Mozilla, and founded Brave after leaving.

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    • steerclear@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You can count me as one of those people so don’t get me wrong; I’m all for not supporting Brave or Eich. I was just curious why this instance where Kagi is paying to use Brave’s search API (which, IMO, doesn’t carry the weight of being labeled a partnership anymore than I’m a partner with Sony because I pay for PS+) among many other companies/products is the dealbreaker for those that use Kagi. And there may be more to the story (or maybe there is an actual partnership I’ve missed) so I’m open to being more informed.

      But if thats the root of the controversy, I can respect that even if I didn’t necessarily align with the level of outcry here.

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  • EngineerGaming@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I dislike Brave because they cultivated a not-so-deserved reputation. I see newcomers to privacy being recommended this and it’s just sad.

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    • Samueru@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Brave is great, it even lets you sync your browser session without having to use an email. And their android app lets you watch youtube vid without ads and in the background.

      It along librewolf are the only browsers that come with good default privacy settings.

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      • skeezix@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        You’re comment implied it’s a good privacy centric browser, which is wrong.

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  • noodlejetski@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I drew the line at Brave.

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    • steerclear@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Fair enough. IMO, Brave isn’t a big enough player compared to many other companies in the enterprise space used by Kagi (both that we know of as consumers and wouldn’t know of without being an employee with knowledge of their internal SaaS agreements) that Kagi’s specific use case of Brave specifically would have been the deal breaker (for me).

      Personally, getting that granular with money flow quickly becomes untenable as a consumer as every business will, to some degree, end up paying for some level of service from the companies we hope to lessen the power of. As a consumer example, I may really dislike how Google is influencing the standards of consumer data privacy in the world and choose not to pay for or use Google products/services directly, but I couldn’t imagine boycotting all companies that use Google Workspace internally for email, docs, sheets, etc.

      Kagi seems to be a main player that’s opening the conversation of paying for internet search when the world is used to a standard of “free” search, so saying they can’t utilize the existing search data sources is going to make that experience dead in the water. We need ripples if we hope for change.

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      • specseaweed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That’s a really easy conclusion to come to when you weren’t the one being targeted.

        And that’s a lot of words to say this isn’t your issue so you aren’t doing anything about it. Nobody needs the hand wringing. You can just say it.

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