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gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 months agoIntel’s lithography process branding is intentionally misleading:
- “Intel 7” is a 10nm process
- “Intel 4” is a 7nm process
- “Intel 3” will be (it’s not in product yet) 5nm
This was done because Intel basically missed an entire generation, and AMD and Nvidia (via TSMC and Samsung) basically leapfrogged them. They’re playing catchup now, and this is marketing spin to make their stuff look better on paper by changing the numbers and removing the units so they’re not technically falsely advertising, just misleading.
Beyond the “Intel 3” node, the process names are Intel 20A and Intel 18A, which, despite the lack of hard information at the moment, I’m pretty suspicious are also misleading branding/marketing attempts, because the symbol for “angstrom” is Å, not A.
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Its misleading because intel nodes at a given nm is a denser process. Finfett tech nm on its own is already a misleading number. Intels 10nm for example is a denser node than TSMCs 7nm. All companies use a non traditional method of measuring nm (as if they did, how does it make sense that a intel 10nm product have higher density than something that is “7nm”) as chip transitior is traditionally defined by the dostamce between transistor to transistor. And denser = transistors are closer together.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 10 months ago
Yep. I understand that. It’s still intentionally misleading.
If Intel could match the processor density, they’d just call it what it is. They’re almost certainly going to catch up eventually, but this naming crap is 100% a marketing ploy. If you also consider the hilarious and asinine slide deck they put together somewhat recently (and then quickly took down after they were basically laughed out of the room by the tech community), it’s very clear they’re trying to keep up with the Joneses (AMD).
They have HUGE enterprise and consumer marketshare, so they’re clearly not going anywhere… but as someone who does actually understand the physics in play here (EECS), it’s embarrassing to see a company that was a market leader and pioneer for so many years sink to such frankly embarrassing tactics.
Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 10 months ago
Im not necessarily saying what intel is doing is right. Im just saying that its a situation where they are ALL doing it, so everyone is wrong in the first place.
When someone technically says 5nm, its either they all have reached 5nm or none of them (based on how true you are to the definition of a nm process), and chooseing a mixed result means you fell into some companies marketing.