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danielquinn@lemmy.ca 8 months agoSo long as it’s understood that “we should buy less stuff” translates to “legislation reducing carbon dependent travel and mandating repairability” and not “if only everyone made the same decisions as me”.
The former has a measurable effect, while the latter is just something we do as individuals to help us feel better.
Jho@feddit.uk 8 months ago
I don’t really agree with your last point. Every little bit helps.
That said, legislation would be much more effective.
Our society encourages to consume things we don’t need, and we can endeavour to recognise when this is occurring and resist where we are able. But there is much we are forced to consume due to lack of appropriate legislation (lack of repairability is a good example of this).
Both of these things are issues. One is bigger than the other for sure, but I don’t think it’s fair to discourage people from taking individual action where they are able by implying it doesn’t have any positive effect.
danielquinn@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
There’s nothing wrong with encouraging individual action, only in suggesting that in doing so they’re solving the problem.
I stopped driving 20 years ago, cycle or transit everywhere, drastically reduced plastic and meat consumption, etc. etc. and while this all makes me feel good/righteous, it hasn’t actually solved anything. There are perhaps 1 million people in the world applying similar efforts. They too probably feel good about themselves, but the world is still on fire.
The vast, vast amount of people will never change on ideology alone. Partially due to things like financial or class limitations, but also just limited knowledge. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve had to explain to people just which plastics are recyclable, which tech is more sustainable, which foods are more environmentally healthy, and what the best options are for heating your home. It’s just too much for most people. Their minds are busy with other things like, “how will I pay rent this month?”. You gotta remember how many people vote based on lies they hear on TV or even just which party uses their favourite colour.
It’s a constant battle that cannot be won by individuals and allowing ourselves to think that we’ve accomplished something by “doing our part” is precisely why we’re still having this conversation 50 years after global warming was identified. We need collective action that limits harmful acts while promoting helpful ones and you can’t do that alone.
YungOnions@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
You’re right, you can’t achieve collective action alone, but I’d argue that individual action, such as what you’re doing is part of that collective action, no?
danielquinn@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Nope, it’s the complete opposite.
I can make different choices tomorrow: buy a Ford F-150, swap my heat pump for a gas boiler, and start buying more disposable crap and the resulting impact on the problem would be negligible. It’s nice to think that my individual choices matter, but on the scale that matters, they don’t even move the needle.
The Ford F-150 should be illegal and gas boilers should be banned or at least more expensive than heat pumps. That moves the needle 'cause it’s collectively applied to the wider public and (more importantly) the economy as a whole.
The problem comes with the idea that “I’m one of the people who needs to change, therefore my changing is progress”. While this is technically true, it’s effectively irrelevant because at the scale we’re talking about, individual contributions are statistically insignificant.
This is exactly why companies like BP & Shell have pushed the idea of personal responsibility so hard. They’ve reframed the debate into something about personal virtue rather than collective responsibility to ensure that nothing changes.
It’s one of the most insidious ideas around activism, that “voting with your wallet” works.