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• VioletTeacup@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Do you want evidence that people died in the tororist attacks, or that the statement is offensive? As to the first, you’re free to read up on the history of the troubles yourself if you like. As to the second, it’s a matter of opinion, not fact, but considering that history, one that I feel is fair enough. As far as I’m concerned, comparing a single terrorist attack to a series of terrorist attacks is more than reasonable.

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  • gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s sort of like saying 9/11 was an effective use of terrorism shortly after it happened

    here’s the thing, though: by no measure could this statement be considered even remotely true.

    what does this have to do with it?

    Do you want evidence that people died in the tororist attacks, or that the statement is offensive?

    because, at no point, did anyone ask for evidence of nor call into doubt either of those claims.

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    • VioletTeacup@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It was and still is unclear what you were asking me to prove. A comparison isn’t a statement of fact, it’s to illustrate how two things are similar. I further explained why I feel that it was fair to compaire them. If you want to keep picking things apart for the sake of it though, have at it.

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      • gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It was and still is unclear what you were asking me to prove.

        I made myself very clear:

        It’s sort of like saying 9/11 was an effective use of terrorism shortly after it happened

        here’s the thing, though: by no measure could this statement be considered even remotely true…The argument you propose, conversely, lacks the obvious evidentiary support required to substantiate such… an ambitious arguments yours….come back with evidence to support your claims.

        A comparison isn’t a statement of fact, it’s to illustrate how two things are similar.

        which you failed to do spectacularly by comparing two things which bear no resemblance in the way you compared them:

        It’s sort of like saying 9/11 was an effective use of terrorism

        because it wasn’t, for it achieved none of its intended goals. if it is your assertion that it did, it’s your job to prove that, which you have not.

        I further explained why I feel that it was fair to compaire them

        no you then used this straw man instead:

        Do you want evidence that people died in the tororist attacks, or that the statement is offensive?

        then you used a series of unrelated equivocations rather than addressing the flaw in your logic: the lack of efficacy of the 9/11 attacks as a tool for social or political change.

        If you want to keep picking things apart for the sake of it though, have at it.

        you’re not a victim because you made a terrible argument and got called out for it.

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