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gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

that was Data’s whole point. Then, just as Picard was about to dish out a bunch of huffy equivocation, their conversation got cut off. Trek was often bold in how it approached controversial sociopolitical subjects. And, sometimes, it scampered off without honestly addressing them.

this occasion was one of the latter.

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VioletTeacup@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
In fairness, it’s less controversial and more that the line is outright offensive. At the time, people were being murdered by acts of terrorismin in the troubles, so to wontonly say that those attacks are effective and will get results was extremely insensitive. It’s sort of like saying 9/11 was an effective use of terrorism shortly after it happened, or the 2015 Paris attacks.

That being said, it’s still an interesting point that Data raises in the episode.

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- porthos@startrek.website ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  In fairness, it’s less controversial and more that the line is outright offensive. At the time, people were being murdered by acts of terrorismin in the troubles, so to wontonly say that those attacks are effective and will get results was extremely insensitive. It’s sort of like saying 9/11 was an effective use of terrorism shortly after it happened, or the 2015 Paris attacks.
  
  I mean I get that it is a pretty touchy subject, but honestly at the end of the day the 9/11 attacks were stunningly effective at doing exactly what Bin Laden wanted us to do, get involved in a long drawn out war that undermined the stability of the US and accelerated its collapse.
  
  The letter got popular recently and I am glad because the asshole literally wrote this all out in a letter and then we just took the bait hook line and sinker.
  
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  - VioletTeacup@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Interesting; I didn’t know that! It’s definitely an interesting subject to say the least.
    
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- gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  It’s sort of like saying 9/11 was an effective use of terrorism shortly after it happened
  
  here’s the think, though: by no measure could this statement be considered even remotely true.
  
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  - VioletTeacup@feddit.uk ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Do you want evidence that people died in the tororist attacks, or that the statement is offensive? As to the first, you’re free to read up on the history of the troubles yourself if you like. As to the second, it’s a matter of opinion, not fact, but considering that history, one that I feel is fair enough. As far as I’m concerned, comparing a single terrorist attack to a series of terrorist attacks is more than reasonable.
    
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    gregorum@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    It’s sort of like saying 9/11 was an effective use of terrorism shortly after it happened
    
    here’s the thing, though: by no measure could this statement be considered even remotely true.
    
    what does this have to do with it?
    
    Do you want evidence that people died in the tororist attacks, or that the statement is offensive?
    
    because, at no point, did anyone ask for evidence of nor call into doubt either of those claims.
    
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