ropatrick@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
I like posts like this (certainly the spiffy world map looks like you are in a movie!), and I like the self hosting idea, but here’s the issue I see with self hosting stuff…
Its so complex. To me its bordering on inaccessible for the regular user. What you have described is very technical, and I see this all the time in the self host section; very cool looking dash, doing cool stuff, but then the description is like its literally in a different language. I’m usually lost before I have read three lines.
In your post, I’m actually not even sure what you have built. Mail server? Website? I’m fairly techie but I find it hard to understand. Is “software house” your business?
Its great and I commend your work, but its mind boggling and my overarching feeling when I see these posts is usually: “damn, way too complex, I wouldn’t know where to start”.
Thanks for the post however and for taking the time to document and answer questions. 👍🏼
You’re completely right, and thank you for saying it directly. Let me try again in plain English: I run a small software company from home. Instead of paying €50-100/month for hosting, email, and analytics services, I built everything on a €60 Raspberry Pi computer sitting next to my router. What’s actually running on it:
The website you’re reading about (like any website, just hosted at home instead of on AWS) Email — when someone writes to info@lake8.dev, it lands on that Pi Analytics — that world map showing where visitors come from
That’s it. Three things, one small computer, zero monthly fees. There’s also a green angle that rarely gets mentioned: the entire setup draws around 3-4W idle — less than a LED light bulb. A data center rack serving the same traffic would consume orders of magnitude more. Self-hosting at this scale isn’t just cheaper, it’s genuinely lighter on the planet. The complexity you’re seeing is real — it took months to set up and I have 20+ years of experience. I’m not going to pretend it’s for everyone. It isn’t. But that’s also why I built Lagotto BI — our actual product — which does the opposite: takes complex business data and makes it readable for people who just want to understand their business, not manage servers. So yes, “software house” is my small business. The Pi is just how I run the infrastructure behind it without paying cloud prices forever. Thanks for the honest feedback — it’s genuinely useful. thk :-)
ropatrick@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Hey Grazie for following up, appreciate it. Sounds even more impressive now that I understand it fully.
I was thinking about it after I posted and I suppose the fact that its complex is part of why the big corporations can benefit so much from our data. They have full control and a million services to host your site, manage your email and analyse your data, and all it takes is a two minute sign up and you are in. Sounds great for the basic user, which is most of the world, but the price you pay is that your data and privacy is effectively gone. They have a captive audience and we go running to them. Its a shame.
I suppose if self hosting was easy, many more people would be doing it. I still love the idea but i think its still a bit technical and that puts me off.
Again, appreciate the response and time taken to explain. I can almost feel feeling of satisfaction you must have, knowing that you are saving money, protecting your privacy and running part of your business in such an excellent way! Great work.
Ciao!
Ciao ropatrick! You nailed it perfectly. The big corporations made it incredibly easy — two minutes and you’re in. But “free” and “easy” always has a price, and in this case it’s your data and your independence. You’re right that self-hosting is still too technical for most people. That’s actually part of why I built lake8.dev — to make this kind of infrastructure more accessible for small businesses, at least in the manufacturing sector. And yes — that feeling of satisfaction is very real. Every time the server handles real traffic from my living room, it feels like a small personal victory against the cloud monopoly. 😄 Grazie for the kind words — and for actually reading and understanding the post!